Ooh. Sounds like Dan touched a nerve there then.

It would not be unheard of for fragile people to become aggressive.

Is masculinity really about fighting then? Not e.g. about courage, courteousness and defending the weak?

Oh, and using spanners and opening jars.

Edited by Mapletree (26 Jan 2020 12.13am)

haha...classic sterling.

calling somebody out on the internet because you got a reply you didnt like.

bless

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Why do you Lefties always use selective history references that have no relevance to the argument?

Society has changed dramatically in the last seventy plus years and that is noticeable to those who have experienced most of that period. Some of it is for the better but many well intended changes have lead to puritanical insanity, a breakdown of family values and an erosion of societal fabric.

There is no point in pretending that nothing has changed or that something that happened in the sixteenth century alters that fact.

I also dont understand this obsession with trying to make being sexually fluid cool and hip. I dont know one woman that would find it remotely attractive knowing her partner has sucked a dick.

I actually feel for these young beta males, theres guys out there now sucking dick as they think it might possibly attract the cool progressive female at uni smh.

Yes, they did. And they were quite clear it wasn't about getting manipulated into attacking others of their generation due to political and economic self-interest and failures. My grandfather, who was blown up, recovered and was sent back to the front to be blown up again, deeply regretted the history of WW1 and how the older generation had abused his generation when he was young.

I may go back to watching Al Jazeera, good idea. I haven't watched it much since I worked in Saudi.

My middle class sensitivities can cope with Croydon quite well and - given your views on the area - I suggest I am not overly sensitive in comparison.

What does the Daily Mail and Sargon have to say?

Manipulation is a fact of life.

Arguments over the autonomy of the individual and the state regarding any war is a separate discussion.

How do I say this sensitively.....I don't believe that your grandparents viewed masculinity the same way you do.....unless they were very much a part of a minority...and so your answer here is just you being disingenuous as usual.....which is amusing considering how you always present yourself differently.

Yeah, you do that, it rather sums you up.

'Croydon'.....yeah except that you don't live in a rough part of Croydon do you....Yet you like to pull the wool over people's eyes with this as well.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jan 2020 3.46pm)

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