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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 3.12pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Saracens are the only team to have won twice in a row - in fact something like three out of four and in four of the last five finals. There is no wage cap in the European Cup/Heineken Cup because if there was then the French teams would not be in it.
As for Leinster and Munster, if you could be bothered to look into it - you would find exactly the same irregularities - companies set up to give players more money, or private benefactors paying wages that the provinces can't afford. Other than that, really should provinces be playing clubs - i think it should be looked at?
How exactly did the world's no 1 team do at the World Cup? Watch out for those panes of glass. As for the rest - the only Northern Hemisphere team to have won a World Cup is England. I hope Ireland are still ranked above England as that demonstrates what a total joke the rankings are. What were the recent scores between the two sides - do you need reminding?
Ireland were sh!te at the world cup and no amount of cheating would have even helped. If it could, I'm sure it would have been done - judging by Ireland's olympic record and Jamie Heaslip's autobiography where he quite clearly demonstrated a doping culture - which he was too stupid to even realise he had done.

[Last 4 meetings between Ireland and England, since you ask, is two wins each! In last 15 years, Irish teams have won the european cup 6 times, English teams 4 times, and the head to head eupopean cup wins is currently Leinster 4 saracens 3- not bad for a country of 5 million v a country of 65 million i think!Sorry for stating the facts, but you did ask!

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 22 Jan 20 3.25pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Hi Syd - miss the old rugby banter - you never agree with me but that's what forums are all about.

Indeed. And with regard to the paragraph you wrote that I quote below, let me say I could not agree with you more!:

"Its not just the cheating that gets me, its the way you drink it up, turning a blind eye if it suits your cause, sir mo farah, the somalian, sir bradley wiggins, the belgian, sir chris hoye, somewhere in africa i think, but all british,,,,,,and none of them touched a bit of the steroids delivered to their coaches base, all good british athletes, all completely roid free, now saracens, you enjoy it if it gives you a buzz ,nothing wrong with living on fantasy island if it makes you happy!"

Edited by sydtheeagle (22 Jan 2020 3.25pm)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 3.38pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Indeed. And with regard to the paragraph you wrote that I quote below, let me say I could not agree with you more!:

"Its not just the cheating that gets me, its the way you drink it up, turning a blind eye if it suits your cause, sir mo farah, the somalian, sir bradley wiggins, the belgian, sir chris hoye, somewhere in africa i think, but all british,,,,,,and none of them touched a bit of the steroids delivered to their coaches base, all good british athletes, all completely roid free, now saracens, you enjoy it if it gives you a buzz ,nothing wrong with living on fantasy island if it makes you happy!"


He didnt write that syd, i did! And also agree with your Exeter comment, its not just the cheating that is unfair to the other eupopean cup opponents, its unfair to the clubs in the english premiership and below to, and its no coincidence saracens only won the european cup in the past few yewars, thats when the cheating began!I will be interested to see if they get stripped of those titles, probably not with a little sweetner to the right person, but the players and fans know its left a sour taste in their mouths!

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 4.09pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Saracens are the only team to have won twice in a row - in fact something like three out of four and in four of the last five finals. There is no wage cap in the European Cup/Heineken Cup because if there was then the French teams would not be in it.
As for Leinster and Munster, if you could be bothered to look into it - you would find exactly the same irregularities - companies set up to give players more money, or private benefactors paying wages that the provinces can't afford. Other than that, really should provinces be playing clubs - i think it should be looked at?
How exactly did the world's no 1 team do at the World Cup? Watch out for those panes of glass. As for the rest - the only Northern Hemisphere team to have won a World Cup is England. I hope Ireland are still ranked above England as that demonstrates what a total joke the rankings are. What were the recent scores between the two sides - do you need reminding?
Ireland were sh!te at the world cup and no amount of cheating would have even helped. If it could, I'm sure it would have been done - judging by Ireland's olympic record and Jamie Heaslip's autobiography where he quite clearly demonstrated a doping culture - which he was too stupid to even realise he had done.

Ireland and wales, both around 5 million population, on par if not better than england, population above 65 million, i think i rest my case!Its not just the cheating that gets me, its the way you drink it up, turning a blind eye if it suits your cause, sir mo farah, the somalian, sir bradley wiggins, the belgian, sir chris hoye, somewhere in africa i think, but all british,,,,,,and none of them touched a bit of the steroids delivered to their coaches base, all good british athletes, all completely roid free, now saracens, you enjoy it if it gives you a buzz ,nothing wrong with living on fantasy island if it makes you happy!

Best of luck in the Six Nations. Better get your bet on Ireland for the next world Cup. You answered nothing nothing. You lost in the last matches and will do in the next. Those are the ones that count. England 2003. Ireland never, Wales never. Stats that count.

 


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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Jan 20 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Why don't we bin this football malarkey and become a rugby club instead? With the professionalism -- and budget -- we could stride the world stage.

(I'm not serious but have sometimes wondered if the club/community would benefit from a CPRFC -- there's no quality rugby for miles around, and junior rugby is laughably under coached.)

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 6.52pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Best of luck in the Six Nations. Better get your bet on Ireland for the next world Cup. You answered nothing nothing. You lost in the last matches and will do in the next. Those are the ones that count. England 2003. Ireland never, Wales never. Stats that count.

stats that count indeed ! Ireland 5 million, wales 5 million, england 65 million, and are no better than the other two(but behind both in the rankings!), looking forward to the six nations! Leinster 4 european cups, saracens 3(if they are allowed to keep them as all fell in this cheating era!) stats my friend, say it all!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 6.56pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Why don't we bin this football malarkey and become a rugby club instead? With the professionalism -- and budget -- we could stride the world stage.

(I'm not serious but have sometimes wondered if the club/community would benefit from a CPRFC -- there's no quality rugby for miles around, and junior rugby is laughably under coached.)

I must admit i used to hate rugby as a kid and only started paying interest in it about 20 years ago, but would prefer to watch the rugby thtse days in the big tournaments, i think its a better game, less cheating to, on the pitch!what saracens get up to off it is anyones guess!

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 7.10pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

stats that count indeed ! Ireland 5 million, wales 5 million, england 65 million, and are no better than the other two(but behind both in the rankings!), looking forward to the six nations! Leinster 4 european cups, saracens 3(if they are allowed to keep them as all fell in this cheating era!) stats my friend, say it all!

Stick to watching the rankings. Worked out well for you last time out - if you could be bothered to consider how Ireland did recently, then are they above England? They're just about in touch with England - three places behind. I already stated I'm not a Saracens fan.
Why exactly are provinces playing clubs? And only one six nations country gets away with that.
My only real point is that why even have a wage cap - when no one else does? As for cheating - fans of other English clubs may think that - that's their prerogative. Leinster fans can f*** off back to D4.
Connacht for me.
Anyway, heard all the rubbish about England for the last twenty years. I tend to give as good as I get. I support Ireland except against England. With all the new Dick heads that have jumped on the band wagon since Ireland started winning a couple - I don't think I'll bother. Most championships, most grand slams, most wins - wonder who that is? Good luck in the six nations - new coach for you. Wonder where he came from? Oh yes...

 


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punksnotdead Flag croydon 22 Jan 20 7.33pm Send a Private Message to punksnotdead Add punksnotdead as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Saracens are the only team to have won twice in a row - in fact something like three out of four and in four of the last five finals. There is no wage cap in the European Cup/Heineken Cup because if there was then the French teams would not be in it.
As for Leinster and Munster, if you could be bothered to look into it - you would find exactly the same irregularities - companies set up to give players more money, or private benefactors paying wages that the provinces can't afford. Other than that, really should provinces be playing clubs - i think it should be looked at?
How exactly did the world's no 1 team do at the World Cup? Watch out for those panes of glass. As for the rest - the only Northern Hemisphere team to have won a World Cup is England. I hope Ireland are still ranked above England as that demonstrates what a total joke the rankings are. What were the recent scores between the two sides - do you need reminding?
Ireland were sh!te at the world cup and no amount of cheating would have even helped. If it could, I'm sure it would have been done - judging by Ireland's olympic record and Jamie Heaslip's autobiography where he quite clearly demonstrated a doping culture - which he was too stupid to even realise he had done.

Ireland and wales, both around 5 million population, on par if not better than england, population above 65 million, i think i rest my case!Its not just the cheating that gets me, its the way you drink it up, turning a blind eye if it suits your cause, sir mo farah, the somalian, sir bradley wiggins, the belgian, sir chris hoye, somewhere in africa i think, but all british,,,,,,and none of them touched a bit of the steroids delivered to their coaches base, all good british athletes, all completely roid free, now saracens, you enjoy it if it gives you a buzz ,nothing wrong with living on fantasy island if it makes you happy!


I think you mean Chris Froome, he was born in Kenya and grew up in South Africa, Chris Hoye is from Edinburgh

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 7.43pm

Originally posted by punksnotdead


I think you mean Chris Froome, he was born in Kenya and grew up in South Africa, Chris Hoye is from Edinburgh

Yes , thanks, thats the chap i ment!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 7.54pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Stick to watching the rankings. Worked out well for you last time out - if you could be bothered to consider how Ireland did recently, then are they above England? They're just about in touch with England - three places behind. I already stated I'm not a Saracens fan.
Why exactly are provinces playing clubs? And only one six nations country gets away with that.
My only real point is that why even have a wage cap - when no one else does? As for cheating - fans of other English clubs may think that - that's their prerogative. Leinster fans can f*** off back to D4.
Connacht for me.
Anyway, heard all the rubbish about England for the last twenty years. I tend to give as good as I get. I support Ireland except against England. With all the new Dick heads that have jumped on the band wagon since Ireland started winning a couple - I don't think I'll bother. Most championships, most grand slams, most wins - wonder who that is? Good luck in the six nations - new coach for you. Wonder where he came from? Oh yes...

Most people to choose from to, 65 million, compared to 5 million, think about it, theres more people within a few miles of saracens ground than the whole of ireland or wales, should be way out in front with that pool to pick from and all that money, but theyre not!Funny how you say its last two games thats important, but go back years for the england final win, and no doubt harp on about 1966 to, when france have won two world cups and a european championship and another losing world cup final in past 20 years, make your mind up man! Either live in the present, or live in the past, but dont try both! Incidentally, im connaght to, but cant diss munster and leinster for what they have achieved, leinster are the all time top winners with toulouse, 4 each, they are the liverpool or rugby!

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 22 Jan 20 8.53pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Isn’t the French national team in the doldrums because of league clubs attracting and paying imported players inflated salaries? And people want that?

 


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