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Denying Anti-Semitism and other racism
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  Hrolf The Ganger  21 Dec 19 8.28am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Here's some real antisemitism....on the streets of London. Imagine my shock. [Tweet Link]
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| Stirlingsays 21 Dec 19 8.35am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Diversity will lead to increasing tribal warfare on our streets as I said years ago. It wasn't a difficult prediction. Foreign conflicts on English streets. They do not belong here.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 21 Dec 19 10.17am |
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Yes. Because we bear absolutely no responsibility for any tensions felt by people from pakistan, Israel or Palestine.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Dec 19 10.21am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Yes. Because we bear absolutely no responsibility for any tensions felt by people from pakistan, Israel or Palestine. Well, we could have denied Jews a new homeland and continued to govern India. Would you have liked that better?
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cryrst  The garden of England 21 Dec 19 12.29pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Yes. Because we bear absolutely no responsibility for any tensions felt by people from pakistan, Israel or Palestine. Oops.
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| Stirlingsays 21 Dec 19 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Yes. Because we bear absolutely no responsibility for any tensions felt by people from pakistan, Israel or Palestine. We bear zero responsibility towards them. The 'born guilty' mentality is a disfigurement. Historical analysis is extremely subjective.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Dec 19 3.45pm |
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Sky running a big story today where someone spray painted a star of David with 911 below on a possibly Jewish store. Corbyn has denied culpability - he needed spray paint for his constituency office, according to his expense claim.
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Teddy Eagle  29 Dec 19 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Sky running a big story today where someone spray painted a star of David with 911 below on a possibly Jewish store. Corbyn has denied culpability - he needed spray paint for his constituency office, according to his expense claim. Thought he was more of a whitewash merchant?
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| Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 31 Dec 19 9.06am |
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In my book, Corbyn is anti Zionist and for many Jews that's inherently anti Semitic. I don't know whether the complaints predominantly circle back to this issue -- whether Zionism and being Jewish are one and the same -- or whether Corbyn's stance gives cover for undiluted anti Semites. Were I a gambling man, I would wager that most complaints are about anti-Zionist remarks, with a much smaller smattering of truer 'pure' anti Semitic remarks.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 31 Dec 19 9.18am |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
In my book, Corbyn is anti Zionist and for many Jews that's inherently anti Semitic. I don't know whether the complaints predominantly circle back to this issue -- whether Zionism and being Jewish are one and the same -- or whether Corbyn's stance gives cover for undiluted anti Semites. Were I a gambling man, I would wager that most complaints are about anti-Zionist remarks, with a much smaller smattering of truer 'pure' anti Semitic remarks. There are plenty of leaders in history who looked the other way as their supporters carried out their wishes. In Soviet Russia when something bad happened the people would say genuinely "if only Stalin knew" believing that the arrests etc. were carried out behind his back. Corbyn isn't Stalin but he is guilty of inactivity over anti Semitism and most moderate people can see that. As one Labour MP said recently he doesn't pass the sniff test. It says a lot about his personality and it's not just the Jewish issue he never criticises Venezuela or Cuba or Russia what I get from that is that once he makes his mind up he doesn't budge. So he is not the reasonable pragmatic man of integrity that his supporters like to portray. He is a man with feet of clay unable to move even when the facts are there. For instance over Venezuela he could have chosen to say that the current leader has betrayed the work of his predecessor or something along those lines. Good campaigners / protestors do not always make good leaders.
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| Stirlingsays 31 Dec 19 10.45am |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
In my book, Corbyn is anti Zionist and for many Jews that's inherently anti Semitic. I don't know whether the complaints predominantly circle back to this issue -- whether Zionism and being Jewish are one and the same -- or whether Corbyn's stance gives cover for undiluted anti Semites. Were I a gambling man, I would wager that most complaints are about anti-Zionist remarks, with a much smaller smattering of truer 'pure' anti Semitic remarks. I would probably agree......However the Labour party and Corbyn himself give no such chin scratching over those they deem anti Islamic....So to be honest, in a way, they deserve all they get. The problem with being anti Zionist is that essentially it amounts to being against the existence of Israel.....as if you are going to have a state of Israel you are going to have nationalism as part of it. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2019 10.48am)
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| Stirlingsays 31 Dec 19 10.50am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
There are plenty of leaders in history who looked the other way as their supporters carried out their wishes. In Soviet Russia when something bad happened the people would say genuinely "if only Stalin knew" believing that the arrests etc. were carried out behind his back. Corbyn isn't Stalin but he is guilty of inactivity over anti Semitism and most moderate people can see that. As one Labour MP said recently he doesn't pass the sniff test. It says a lot about his personality and it's not just the Jewish issue he never criticises Venezuela or Cuba or Russia what I get from that is that once he makes his mind up he doesn't budge. So he is not the reasonable pragmatic man of integrity that his supporters like to portray. He is a man with feet of clay unable to move even when the facts are there. For instance over Venezuela he could have chosen to say that the current leader has betrayed the work of his predecessor or something along those lines. Good campaigners / protestors do not always make good leaders. You mean Stalin knew!!??
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