Well in terms of scientific definitions it doesn't, but the common understanding is that peoples with obvious physical differences are separate races.

It amuses me because I was once bombarded with abuse on the BBS by lefties for pointing out the former because they thought it was 'racist'.

You have to laugh.

The bottom line is that Whitey will disappear unless he takes steps to ensure his future.

I am less bothered about demographics than most on the right primarily because it strikes me that most migrants actually share more values with those of us all the Right than they do with the lefties who supposedly champion them.

Look at the protests outside schools at the moment against the deviant alphabet spaghetti mob up in the Midlands. Led by Muslims. I have nothing but respect for their efforts.

For me the biggest threat we face at the moment comes from people who are white. And who spout off Green bulls***. That is the evil. Anti-life types who seem to think nothing of exploiting naive young Swedish girls with developmental issues for their own ends.

Of course, there are going to be a raft of problems and clashes of culture but I am becoming increasingly convinced that the future is a Cosmopolitian Conservatism one that puts the empahsis back on traditional values.

The Globalisation Genie is out of the bottle. It cannot be helped and if I was some poor b****** in some s***-hole of a third world plague pit then I would be looking to do whatever it took to give myself a better future.

I think this is where people on the Right have to reach out a little. Understand that we have far more in common with the average Muslim or Sikh or Hindu than the scummy soc.libs who would if they had the courage to be honest, admit they absolutely loathe the traditional values that the vast majority of migrants to the West cherish.

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"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

This is the same road that the left have travelled down....it's not going to work and at a certain population size they will be discarded.

It's very much a European attitude....'lets enlarge our similarities and reduce our differences'. It can work at the individual and small group level but it's not happening holistically.

All you are doing is paying the metaphorical danegeld.

It's certainly true that Islam is very socially conservative.....I mean, I'm socially conservative but I'm a raving twerking liberal compared to mainstream Islam.

Indeed, we could say that Hinduism and Islam are also very socially conservative...Sikhism also....Why I wonder don't they live side by side in large numbers....history tells us why.

What you are saying is similar to someone saying.....'why can't the Hitler and Stalin both get on?' I mean, the Nazis and communists share certain attributes....both authoritarian, statist and militarist.

However, the differences are just too big.

What you need to appreciate, and what most reform Muslims will tell you is that there can be no real integration outside of reformist Islam because the religion itself won't tolerate it.....that's just as much of the social conservatism you notice as anything else.

Mainstream Islam is very Identitarian and it isn't going to accept a rival system once it reaches a set size....Just as happened back at its start.

If what you are saying is that you would rather be a Muslim than a leftist then I can understand but for me that's not happening. The idea of my children's children being Muslims is truly awful.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Over the next 100 years, the influence of Petrodollars will fade. It is already starting and with a US that is now almost energy independent, the forces that have driven Islamic fundamentalism will decline in influence. You are already seeing a backlash.

We have to accept that globalisation is a reality no matter how much we want to pretend it is not. And the Right need to adopt it. Push for the notion of shared values, about the evil of the Green-Left axis (and I do not use the word 'evil' lightly. They truly wish for the destruction of humanity) and yes, coalesce around that which unites us as opposed to dividing.

Perhaps that narrative is a little naive and I certainly do not wish to minimise the threat the Islamic fundamentalism truly poses but I also wonder if we have been sold a dud in someways when the real threat to our way of life comes from those within, so to speak.

I have no desire to have Muslim Grandchildren, a sentiment that I am sure most Muslims would echo in terms of them wishing to maintain their own cultural and spiritual identities as well but in terms of what I truly value, then it is the scum from the left that presents the biggest threat to those.

We demonise, and quite rightly, the groups responsible for the grooming scandals across the country but let us not forget that it was white people aiding and abetting them along with the wider white community washing their hands of the victims in the first place who, in the main, came from dysfunctional families. We cannot ask others to face up to their role in what has happened without also acknowledging ours.

I dropped my daughter off yesterday at University and it was a mixed bag in terms of other races and religions but the one thing that struck me was how it was primarily family groups around us. Mum, Dad, siblings, grandparents. Colour was irrelevant. I share far more in common with them than I do the white degenerates currently driving most of our main-stream media agenda.

The Left are my enemy. And in the main, they are as white as my backside.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

I'm not sure I really see the logic in accepting undesirable religions or cultures because their followers maintain a family structure that adheres to the natural human condition.
There is no need to accept any undesirable influence be it from Europeans or anyone else.

It's not an either or.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Sep 2019 10.34am)

I agree with all your criticism of the left but you seem to be suggesting that we embrace something equally bad or even worse. Whether we went in the direction of full on communism or a global caliphate, they would seem to result in similar and very unwanted outcomes.