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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Jul 19 12.53pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle In Las Vegas any slot machine win over 1200 dollars is taxed at 30% if you are American. The machine locks and you have to wait for someone to come and check your passport. I don’t understand the issue with FOB - don’t bookies exist so people can gamble what they want? A responsible bartender would not allow a drinker to down a short every minute whilst standing at the bar. At some point he would say that's enough. I watch people play these machines all the time it is highly addictive the machine is designed that way. In general I think people should be allowed to do what they like but you have to have some rules. It is no coincidence that the bookies have more betting shops in poorer areas than in wealthy one. Amongst my middle class friends none of them gamble I suspect that is because they are happy with their lifestyle where as poorer people are always hoping for that one life changing moment. One more point
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Beckenham 04 Jul 19 12.53pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

In Las Vegas any slot machine win over 1200 dollars is taxed at 30% if you are American. The machine locks and you have to wait for someone to come and check your passport.
I don’t understand the issue with FOB - don’t bookies exist so people can gamble what they want?

A responsible bartender would not allow a drinker to down a short every minute whilst standing at the bar. At some point he would say that's enough.

I watch people play these machines all the time it is highly addictive the machine is designed that way.

In general I think people should be allowed to do what they like but you have to have some rules. It is no coincidence that the bookies have more betting shops in poorer areas than in wealthy one.

Amongst my middle class friends none of them gamble I suspect that is because they are happy with their lifestyle where as poorer people are always hoping for that one life changing moment.

One more point

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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jul 19 12.56pm
Originally posted by cryrst Cool I wont disappoint you by giving up and living forever then so costing the state money. Although by smoking I do contribute some of the roughly 14 billion pounds towards the states coffers of which only about 50% is spent on any diseases caused. No brainer to carry on really. Happy pouting. You are currently at liberty to condemn yourself to a shortened existence, brown teeth, yellow ceilings, high costs, tasteless food and potentially breathless, choking death if you choose to accept your addiction. Happy coughing.
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Originally posted by cryrst

Cool I wont disappoint you by giving up and living forever then so costing the state money.
Although by smoking I do contribute some of the roughly 14 billion pounds towards the states coffers of which only about 50% is spent on any diseases caused.
No brainer to carry on really.
Happy pouting.

You are currently at liberty to condemn yourself to a shortened existence, brown teeth, yellow ceilings, high costs, tasteless food and potentially breathless, choking death if you choose to accept your addiction.

Happy coughing.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Jul 19 12.59pm
Originally posted by Badger11 A responsible bartender would not allow a drinker to down a short every minute whilst standing at the bar. At some point he would say that's enough. I watch people play these machines all the time it is highly addictive the machine is designed that way. In general I think people should be allowed to do what they like but you have to have some rules. It is no coincidence that the bookies have more betting shops in poorer areas than in wealthy one. Amongst my middle class friends none of them gamble I suspect that is because they are happy with their lifestyle where as poorer people are always hoping for that one life changing moment. To support that suspicion; when I was a poor student, I gambled nearly every day, and now I’m employed and comfortable, I don’t even look at it.
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Originally posted by Badger11

A responsible bartender would not allow a drinker to down a short every minute whilst standing at the bar. At some point he would say that's enough.

I watch people play these machines all the time it is highly addictive the machine is designed that way.

In general I think people should be allowed to do what they like but you have to have some rules. It is no coincidence that the bookies have more betting shops in poorer areas than in wealthy one.

Amongst my middle class friends none of them gamble I suspect that is because they are happy with their lifestyle where as poorer people are always hoping for that one life changing moment.

To support that suspicion; when I was a poor student, I gambled nearly every day, and now I’m employed and comfortable, I don’t even look at it.

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Teddy Eagle 04 Jul 19 1.00pm
Originally posted by Badger11 A responsible bartender would not allow a drinker to down a short every minute whilst standing at the bar. At some point he would say that's enough. I watch people play these machines all the time it is highly addictive the machine is designed that way. In general I think people should be allowed to do what they like but you have to have some rules. It is no coincidence that the bookies have more betting shops in poorer areas than in wealthy one. Amongst my middle class friends none of them gamble I suspect that is because they are happy with their lifestyle where as poorer people are always hoping for that one life changing moment. Yes, I take your point but I would’ve thought online gambling was more of a risk. I’m glad I don’t have a gamblers mindset. I always think how much I can afford to lose rather than how much I stand to win.
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04 Jul 19 1.00pm

Originally posted by Badger11

A responsible bartender would not allow a drinker to down a short every minute whilst standing at the bar. At some point he would say that's enough.

I watch people play these machines all the time it is highly addictive the machine is designed that way.

In general I think people should be allowed to do what they like but you have to have some rules. It is no coincidence that the bookies have more betting shops in poorer areas than in wealthy one.

Amongst my middle class friends none of them gamble I suspect that is because they are happy with their lifestyle where as poorer people are always hoping for that one life changing moment.

Yes, I take your point but I would’ve thought online gambling was more of a risk. I’m glad I don’t have a gamblers mindset. I always think how much I can afford to lose rather than how much I stand to win.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jul 19 1.07pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle At least they haven't blamed Brexit Not yet Midland, not yet. The one thing I find strange on UK TV is the in ordinant amount of Gambling commercials Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jul 19 1.07pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

At least they haven't blamed Brexit

Not yet Midland, not yet. The one thing I find strange on UK TV is the in ordinant amount of Gambling commercials

Pro USA & Israel

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cryrst The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.10pm
Originally posted by Badger11 William Hill is the first of many to announce closures, the fixed odds betting crackdown is just the excuse they are looking for. Bookies in this country over expanded their high street operations especially in poorer areas. This happened before online gambling took off and the high street started closing down. The market growth is now online and across all demographics. As a punter who uses bookies the demographics there is older men who are dying off and not being replaced. This would have happened anyway but for the record I think the crackdown is a good idea those machines are addictive and destroy lives. I would go one step further and ban TV ads before the watershed and ban all bookies that are not registered in the UK and pay tax here. This may make me a hypocrite but I can live with that. I have a friend who is an addict and has been in gaol several times to pay for his habit. Bookies are a leech on society and I never feel sorry for them. What about the employees who are losing their jobs. No pity for those individuals?
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The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.10pm

Originally posted by Badger11

William Hill is the first of many to announce closures, the fixed odds betting crackdown is just the excuse they are looking for.

Bookies in this country over expanded their high street operations especially in poorer areas. This happened before online gambling took off and the high street started closing down.

The market growth is now online and across all demographics. As a punter who uses bookies the demographics there is older men who are dying off and not being replaced.

This would have happened anyway but for the record I think the crackdown is a good idea those machines are addictive and destroy lives. I would go one step further and ban TV ads before the watershed and ban all bookies that are not registered in the UK and pay tax here.

This may make me a hypocrite but I can live with that. I have a friend who is an addict and has been in gaol several times to pay for his habit. Bookies are a leech on society and I never feel sorry for them.

What about the employees who are losing their jobs.
No pity for those individuals?

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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jul 19 1.31pm
Originally posted by cryrst What about the employees who are losing their jobs. No pity for those individuals? Did you sympathise with the executioner when hanging was ended?
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04 Jul 19 1.31pm

Originally posted by cryrst

What about the employees who are losing their jobs.
No pity for those individuals?

Did you sympathise with the executioner when hanging was ended?

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Mapletree Croydon 04 Jul 19 1.34pm
Originally posted by cryrst What about the employees who are losing their jobs. No pity for those individuals? No They must observe first hand the misery they create but choose to ignore it. In any case isn't this all moving online?
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Croydon 04 Jul 19 1.34pm

Originally posted by cryrst

What about the employees who are losing their jobs.
No pity for those individuals?

They must observe first hand the misery they create but choose to ignore it.

In any case isn't this all moving online?

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cryrst The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.35pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are currently at liberty to condemn yourself to a shortened existence, brown teeth, yellow ceilings, high costs, tasteless food and potentially breathless, choking death if you choose to accept your addiction. Happy coughing. Potentially a shortened existence. Evidence is that there is more chance but not guaranteed. Many healthy people suffer at death. Look left instead of right when crossing the road has a similar ending.
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The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.35pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Happy coughing.

Potentially a shortened existence.
Evidence is that there is more chance but not guaranteed.
Many healthy people suffer at death.
Look left instead of right when crossing the road has a similar ending.

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Teddy Eagle 04 Jul 19 1.44pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No They must observe first hand the misery they create but choose to ignore it. In any case isn't this all moving online? Bit harsh. That’s like blaming coal miners for destroying the atmosphere.
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Teddy Eagle

04 Jul 19 1.44pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

They must observe first hand the misery they create but choose to ignore it.

In any case isn't this all moving online?

Bit harsh. That’s like blaming coal miners for destroying the atmosphere.

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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jul 19 1.45pm
Originally posted by cryrst Potentially a shortened existence. Evidence is that there is more chance but not guaranteed. Many healthy people suffer at death. Look left instead of right when crossing the road has a similar ending. There is a world of difference between being the victim of an accident and choosing/being addicted to self inflicted harm. Death is inevitable and the nature of our deaths is usually unknown, but that does not mean that I will play Russian roulette for kicks.
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Hrolf The Ganger

04 Jul 19 1.45pm

Originally posted by cryrst

There is a world of difference between being the victim of an accident and choosing/being addicted to self inflicted harm.

Death is inevitable and the nature of our deaths is usually unknown, but that does not mean that I will play Russian roulette for kicks.

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jeeagles 04 Jul 19 1.50pm
Employment levels are at a record high. Those workers will find new jobs. The customers will find new, more worthwhile places to spend their money.
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04 Jul 19 1.50pm

Employment levels are at a record high.
Those workers will find new jobs.
The customers will find new, more worthwhile places to spend their money.

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