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 elgrande  bedford 14 Mar 19 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
These soldiers murdered innocent civilians in cold blood. They were unarmed and posed no threat, some were little more than children, that is what the Saville findings found, and Prime Minister Cameron apologised for. They did not face court-martial and the troubles escalated as a result of their actions, with loss of life on all sides including the army itself. Their victims are dead, they are not.
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| Pompyeagle Gosport Hants 14 Mar 19 2.33pm |
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What about those like a ex comrade of mine and others like him who were murdered by the IRA whilst on leave visiting his family in Derey wheres the justice for the likes of them
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| ChrisGC Wantage 14 Mar 19 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It's disgraceful and yet again the blame lies at the door of Tony Blair. I have no doubt that innocent people were killed by soldiers that day. However when the Good Friday agreement was made the UK government agreed to release hundreds of terrorists and not to prosecute many others. This was the price for peace and I accept that it was a necessary evil. However Blair should have insisted that the amnesty also covered the security forces. I would have preferred a peace and reconciliation commission which would have investigated any crimes either by the terrorists or the security services with the proviso of immunity for those that agreed to co-operate with it. Instead we get another Blair botch job and our brave soldiers are left to fight this on their own. "Join the army get to meet interesting people and places and oh yeah and get hung out to dry by the establishment." Brilliant post. Reconciliation isn't a one way street. It's either amnesty for all or amnesty for none. If they want to pursue this, fair enough. Let's bring in Adams and have a look into Jean McConville again for a start. Maybe the kingsmill massacre. The list is f***ing endless. At least in these instances it was entirely the cowardly IRA butchering civilians. What of the gutless scumbags like McGuiness who stood pissing themselves with fear, guns under coats, having called it on, then ran as it kicked off on bloody Sunday? There's blood on everybody's hands. We had them on the rack and traitor Blair let them off. Supposedly, the IRA had more grasses than Wimbledon common. No surrender I say.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Mar 19 3.05pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Brilliant post. Reconciliation isn't a one way street. It's either amnesty for all or amnesty for none. If they want to pursue this, fair enough. Let's bring in Adams and have a look into Jean McConville again for a start. Maybe the kingsmill massacre. The list is f***ing endless. At least in these instances it was entirely the cowardly IRA butchering civilians. What of the gutless scumbags like McGuiness who stood pissing themselves with fear, guns under coats, having called it on, then ran as it kicked off on bloody Sunday? There's blood on everybody's hands. We had them on the rack and traitor Blair let them off. Supposedly, the IRA had more grasses than Wimbledon common. No surrender I say. Yep, our leaders aren't worth a wipe on the curtains.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Mar 19 3.34pm |
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Interesting viewpoint in The Spectator. I'm torn over this issue. I feel I need to educate myself more about the circumstances before commenting.
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| Midlands Eagle 14 Mar 19 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Interesting viewpoint in The Spectator. I'm torn over this issue. I feel I need to educate myself more about the circumstances before commenting. An interesting article indeed. What concerns me is that Dave F must be over 70 by now and surely his recollections of exactly what happened nearly 50 years ago must be sketchy at best as must the testimony of every other witness. I was trying to recall things in my life from 47 years ago and apart from the odd sexual encounter I can't really remember much at all in any detail
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 14 Mar 19 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
An interesting article indeed. What concerns me is that Dave F must be over 70 by now and surely his recollections of exactly what happened nearly 50 years ago must be sketchy at best as must the testimony of every other witness. I was trying to recall things in my life from 47 years ago and apart from the odd sexual encounter I can't really remember much at all in any detail What else is there worth remembering
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 14 Mar 19 6.40pm |
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in ancient times, Cowardly Kings often fled the battle when their side was losing. Leaving the plebs in the frontline to get butchered.
Instead of bullets, those squaddies would have doled out free soup to the masses if ordered to do so. The IRA understood this quite well and it explains the Brighton Grand Hotel bomb and the assassination of Airey Neave. In Westminster, the stupidity of whoever were the highest ranking decision makers is staggering. What did they actually think their violence would achieve ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (14 Mar 2019 6.47pm)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Mar 19 7.14pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Brilliant post. Reconciliation isn't a one way street. It's either amnesty for all or amnesty for none. If they want to pursue this, fair enough. Let's bring in Adams and have a look into Jean McConville again for a start. Maybe the kingsmill massacre. The list is f***ing endless. At least in these instances it was entirely the cowardly IRA butchering civilians. What of the gutless scumbags like McGuiness who stood pissing themselves with fear, guns under coats, having called it on, then ran as it kicked off on bloody Sunday? There's blood on everybody's hands. We had them on the rack and traitor Blair let them off. Supposedly, the IRA had more grasses than Wimbledon common. No surrender I say.
There were violent scumbags on all sides. My theory on the peace process was that people watched the former Yugoslavia tear itself apart and thought 'no thanks'. sounds to me like you would welcome another 30 years of troubles ?
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| chris123 hove actually 14 Mar 19 7.42pm |
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I wonder how fair a trial this can be, 47 years after the event and with many para colleagues dead.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Mar 19 7.53pm |
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What 'soldier F' did, was to blow the brains out of an entirely innocent person who went to the aid of a dying man. He was waving a white flag.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Mar 19 9.12pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What 'soldier F' did, was to blow the brains out of an entirely innocent person who went to the aid of a dying man. He was waving a white flag.
We’re you there then?
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