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 PeatlingPalace  Peatling Leicestershire, UK 09 Mar 19 8.19am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Now I'm expected to believe him? There were many boys sent up to that mansion with Jackson.....by frankly parents I doubt the sanity or motives of. I have my suspicions. However, if we are going to do, 'listen and believe' why aren't we believing people like Macaulay Culkin and Jackson's former wives....especially first wife Lisa Marie Presley....who had major disputes with Jackson post marriage but never this.....Money is hardly going to be a motive for these two is it. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Mar 2019 6.09pm) It was 8 years ago, not a few months...
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| ChrisGC Wantage 09 Mar 19 8.20am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I most definitely could be wrong about this.....however, he had the trial and he walked. I'm not here defending Jackson but rather due process.... I'm just saying I don't know, but I'm suspicious. I agree with you Chris, these parents must be loopy as he was or they were deliberately placing their kids into this situation because they knew that if he liked the child that it was a lawsuit down the line. It seems that normality just wasn't a word that could be associated with Jackson in pretty much any sphere of his life.
Didn't he pay them all to withdraw their complaints? So the parents were getting flown about 1st class, having their houses paid off etc whilst letting their kids sleep in his bed, then when he was done with them they got bought off, how is that not child prostitution? Now those same kids are doing paid interviews as adults. The whole thing is sick. Jacko is brown bread and never got convicted when he was alive because the families of these supposed victims valued cash over justice. Now they're after another payday and expect to be believed.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Mar 19 8.23am |
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They all wanted what he gave them. A dream they couldn’t even dream of. An interesting bit at the end was when one of the 2 dancers was asked if he now forgives his parents. He said ‘I’m working on that one.’ What the should’ve said was ‘I wanted what Michael was doing for me professionally and wouldn’t have wanted my parents to stop that. They didn’t.’
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Mar 19 8.28am |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Didn't he pay them all to withdraw their complaints? So the parents were getting flown about 1st class, having their houses paid off etc whilst letting their kids sleep in his bed, then when he was done with them they got bought off, how is that not child prostitution? Now those same kids are doing paid interviews as adults. The whole thing is sick. Jacko is brown bread and never got convicted when he was alive because the families of these supposed victims valued cash over justice. Now they're after another payday and expect to be believed. Making a child a star before he’s even 8 or whatever he was (I think he was 6 when The Jackson 5 we’re formed) is a bad idea. Most of them have problems. The claims he encouraged them to masturbate before they could ejaculate sounds like the kind of thing possible because MJ was damaged from his childhood of no friends, just his much older brothers and him performing and producing music. Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Mar 2019 8.42am)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Mar 19 8.37am |
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Originally posted by PeatlingPalace
It was 8 years ago, not a few months... Well they both claim it was only once the realisation of what they had experienced because it wasn’t normal once they were around their wives and child is what made them release what they went through. They didn’t know how damaged they were until they were living heterosexual relationships with undamaged women. Then the depression, guilt and destructive thoughts came to the surface they couldn’t deal with when they had someone living with them 24/7. Would be a lot different before then. Prepare yourself to join the world a few times a week.
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| DeanMiles Telford 09 Mar 19 9.51am |
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This was doing the rounds online, no idea if it's true or not. Not seen the documentary and will not watch it either. MJ is dead so he can't defend himself. He was a proper weirdo and everyone knows that. Was he a Paedo? We'll honestly never know will we as he went to court and was found not guilty. Now he's dead more stuff keeps being said by different people. For that reason I won't stop listening to his music. Although I don't think he'll be on the radio now anytime soon. Edited by DeanMiles (09 Mar 2019 9.52am)
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Attachment: | Stirlingsays 09 Mar 19 10.24am |
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Originally posted by PeatlingPalace
It was 8 years ago, not a few months... The show was yes, it was a badly constructed sentence.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Mar 19 10.35am |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Didn't he pay them all to withdraw their complaints? So the parents were getting flown about 1st class, having their houses paid off etc whilst letting their kids sleep in his bed, then when he was done with them they got bought off, how is that not child prostitution? Now those same kids are doing paid interviews as adults. The whole thing is sick. Jacko is brown bread and never got convicted when he was alive because the families of these supposed victims valued cash over justice. Now they're after another payday and expect to be believed. I agree it should never have been allowed to happen. A lot of things around Jackson are an example to us of how money and fame can mean that no one pushes back....I think ultimately this is what led to his death....no one sensible being around.....Was he f**king kids? I don't know. But the FBI spent ten years investigating. As for paying off claims, Jackson choose to fight some claims and choose legal agreements with others. I know since he died his estate have been choosing to fight claims rather than settle.....and I might add winning.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 11 Mar 19 10.37am |
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Have a read of the below: For me, it doesn't make sense why this is being brought up now. There's something very fishy about it all and unless the case is brought back up and he's found guilty, I'll continue to listen to his music. R Kelly is cancelled, however.
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| Beastie 11 Mar 19 12.34pm |
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I still have Gary Glitter’s Rock and Roll Christmas on my festive play list because it’s a tune. I feel the same about music by Michael Jackson, who I’ve little doubt was a paedo. Trying to erase art of any kind because it turns out the artist was a c*nt is not the way to go.
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 becky over the moon 11 Mar 19 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Have a read of the below: For me, it doesn't make sense why this is being brought up now. There's something very fishy about it all and unless the case is brought back up and he's found guilty, I'll continue to listen to his music. R Kelly is cancelled, however. A very good article from a well respected magazine.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Mar 19 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Have a read of the below: For me, it doesn't make sense why this is being brought up now. There's something very fishy about it all and unless the case is brought back up and he's found guilty, I'll continue to listen to his music. R Kelly is cancelled, however. Yes it makes me sway towards doubting the claims. Luckily I’m not a fan and just like hearing the old stuff now and again so can look at him as auite a bit of a freak and some seriously strange behaviour.
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