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chris123 hove actually 27 Jan 19 9.31am | |
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Originally posted by becky
In my day, we didn't have to worry about recycling, we were naturally green.... Milk came in glass bottles (to your doorstep) that were 'rinsed and returned' Soft drinks/beer can in glass bottles that had a deposit charged on them - if you didn't take them back to the shop for the few coppers deposit someone else would! Newspaper had 2 main recycling uses: Broadsheet was cut into 6 squares per page, Tabloid 4, a piece of string through a hole in the corner and that was the family's toilet paper for the week sorted, or a sheet of paper folded diagonally then in 2" folds across, bent in half and 'woven' crosswise made the very best bricks for lighting the fire. Old clothes (mostly natural fabrics in those days) either went to a jumble sale, to the rag and bone man for 1/6d a bag (or a goldfish or windmill depending on supply and demand), or were cut up and used as dusters, polishing cloths etc. It was a common sight to see windows being polished with a tatty pair of soft cotton underpants. Old towels has so many uses you couldn't list them all. Meat from the butcher came wrapped in greaseproof paper, which was thrown away, and then 2 sheets of white cartridge paper which was cut up for drawing paper for the kids. One gas copper of heated water, in a tin bath on the kitchen floor would wash an entire family. (and only happened once a week) Modern recycling/green issues - PAH! don't know the meaning..... In my best Yorkshire ... And you try and tell the young people of today that ... they won't believe you.
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stuckinbristol In the woodwork. 27 Jan 19 9.57am | |
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I have to pay for two bins for my work site, one for recycling and one for general waste. We only have a small office/warehouse, so don't really produce much waste, and only quarter fill each bin fortnightly.
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ChrisGC Wantage 27 Jan 19 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by stuckinbristol
I have to pay for two bins for my work site, one for recycling and one for general waste. We only have a small office/warehouse, so don't really produce much waste, and only quarter fill each bin fortnightly. I work in environmental and pollution monitoring and the recycling often gets f*cked straight into the incinerator at energy from waste plants either through consumption demand or the recycling is at capacity, so it's utter bollox that we're whipping ourselves on the matter. It also gets my goat that we're punishing ourselves about plastics and ocean pollution when the third world continues to take our money in good faith for proper disposal/recycling and instead tips it a ton a minute straight into the sea.
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YT Oxford 27 Jan 19 10.27am | |
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One thing really annoys me about recycling. EVERY TIME the BBC does a ‘piece’ about recycling, they inevitably canvass the views of a few members of the public - usually in Salford, but sometimes s bit further afield like Altrincham. Very soon one such idiot will say: “recycling is so confusing so we don’t bother. Every local council does it differently; they should all be forced to do it the same way. In Bolton they don’t take tetrapaks, in Whitby they take tetrapaks but not aerosols. Reading has a weekly collection of general waste but parts of London only do it fortnightly whereas Macclesfield only collects food waste on alternate Thursdays etc etc etc ad infinitum”. This then draws gushings of empathy, usually from Naga Munchetty. “Ooh I know; it is very confusing, isn’t it, Charlie?” Charlie then agrees that it is indeed very difficult to get one’s university-educated head around. So the BBC perpetuates the myth that recycling is ‘complicated’ instead of pushing back on the commentator with “why do you give a fvck what other councils do? All you have to worry your little brain about is what YOUR council does and what they are asking you to do!” Edited by YT (27 Jan 2019 10.28am)
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Midlands Eagle 27 Jan 19 10.35am | |
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Originally posted by YT
This then draws gushings of empathy, usually from Naga Munchetty. “Ooh I know; it is very confusing, isn’t it, Charlie?” Charlie then agrees that it is indeed very difficult to get one’s university-educated head around. Why is it confusing as I only know what my local council does about recycling and neither know nor care what other councils do as it doesn't affect me. My major complaint about recycling in general is that we wouldn't have to worry anywhere near as much about recycling if the supermarkets played their part and stopped using as much non recyclable products. Why are they selling pizzas on polystyrene bases when cardboard will do and why are so many vegetable products sold on polystyrene bases and wrapped in clingfilm. The government should put large taxes on products that are sold in non recyclable wrapping
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chris123 hove actually 27 Jan 19 10.40am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Why is it confusing as I only know what my local council does about recycling and neither know nor care what other councils do as it doesn't affect me. My major complaint about recycling in general is that we wouldn't have to worry anywhere near as much about recycling if the supermarkets played their part and stopped using as much non recyclable products. Why are they selling pizzas on polystyrene bases when cardboard will do and why are so many vegetable products sold on polystyrene bases and wrapped in clingfilm. The government should put large taxes on products that are sold in non recyclable wrapping You miss the tongue in cheek if you edit.
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Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jan 19 10.42am | |
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Originally posted by YT
One thing really annoys me about recycling. EVERY TIME the BBC does a ‘piece’ about recycling, they inevitably canvass the views of a few members of the public - usually in Salford, but sometimes s bit further afield like Altrincham. Very soon one such idiot will say: “recycling is so confusing so we don’t bother. Every local council does it differently; they should all be forced to do it the same way. In Bolton they don’t take tetrapaks, in Whitby they take tetrapaks but not aerosols. Reading has a weekly collection of general waste but parts of London only do it fortnightly whereas Macclesfield only collects food waste on alternate Thursdays etc etc etc ad infinitum”. This then draws gushings of empathy, usually from Naga Munchetty. “Ooh I know; it is very confusing, isn’t it, Charlie?” Charlie then agrees that it is indeed very difficult to get one’s university-educated head around. So the BBC perpetuates the myth that recycling is ‘complicated’ instead of pushing back on the commentator with “why do you give a fvck what other councils do? All you have to worry your little brain about is what YOUR council does and what they are asking you to do!” Edited by YT (27 Jan 2019 10.28am) I get your frustration but when you buy a ready meal and it tells you to check with your local council to see if it recyclable its a pain most people wont bother. We need a national standard for councils how about some form of numbering standard on the package. You only need to know the corresponding number for your local council so if the package number is 3 and your council is 1 no problem as your council can handle anything from 3 up to 1. If the package is 2 and you council is 3 then it can't do it. Industry and government have to come up with a solution to help us so we can help the environment. And as other posters have mentioned even when we do recycle it can end up being dumped I hear that there is no market for recycled paper?
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HeathMan Purley 27 Jan 19 10.51am | |
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Becky is spot on. A lot of stuff that used to arrive in the home can be used for another purpose, in the home or somewhere else. Would like to see the BBC Breakfast people do the odd re-use item. By the way cardboard pizza boxes cannot be recycled due the fat from the pizza contaminating the cardboard.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 27 Jan 19 12.32pm | |
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Originally posted by becky
In my day, we didn't have to worry about recycling, we were naturally green.... Milk came in glass bottles (to your doorstep) that were 'rinsed and returned' Soft drinks/beer can in glass bottles that had a deposit charged on them - if you didn't take them back to the shop for the few coppers deposit someone else would! Newspaper had 2 main recycling uses: Broadsheet was cut into 6 squares per page, Tabloid 4, a piece of string through a hole in the corner and that was the family's toilet paper for the week sorted, or a sheet of paper folded diagonally then in 2" folds across, bent in half and 'woven' crosswise made the very best bricks for lighting the COAL fire. Old clothes (mostly natural fabrics in those days) either went to a jumble sale, to the rag and bone man for 1/6d a bag (or a goldfish or windmill depending on supply and demand), or were cut up and used as dusters, polishing cloths etc.
Meat from the butcher came wrapped in greaseproof paper, which was thrown away, and then 2 sheets of white cartridge paper which was cut up for drawing paper for the kids. One gas copper of heated water, in a tin bath on the kitchen floor would wash an entire family. (and only happened once a week) My dad: used to tip the 3rd-hand bathwater onto the oak tree roots in our garden. He also dried used tea-bags to use again. I think the term is "tighter than a gnat's chuff" Edited by Forest Hillbilly (28 Jan 2019 3.16am)
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