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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 06 Dec 18 10.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It happened....but people love a conspiracy. I’m so glad we agree on this. ‘People’ are rabid for a conspiracy. Think about the complexity of what you’re proposing. Come on.
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Stirlingsays 07 Dec 18 12.14am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I’m so glad we agree on this. ‘People’ are rabid for a conspiracy. Think about the complexity of what you’re proposing. Come on.
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cryrst The garden of England 07 Dec 18 5.53am | |
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They couldnt make a decent car in 69
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 07 Dec 18 6.30am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
They couldnt make a decent car in 69 Have to disagree ... this would surely get you to the moon and back!
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chateauferret 07 Dec 18 9.07am | |
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Apollo mission astronauts placed reflective equipment on the moon in order to allow precise measurements of its orbit. These objects are visible through a telescope. This fact renders all moon landing conspiracy theories bollocks.
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Badger11 Beckenham 07 Dec 18 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Apollo mission astronauts placed reflective equipment on the moon in order to allow precise measurements of its orbit. These objects are visible through a telescope. This fact renders all moon landing conspiracy theories bollocks. I will give you another one, moon rocks. Apparently the geology for these are unique (something to do with their age and composition which means they are not from earth) and any geologist worth his salt can tell that. These rocks were given to museums and scientific bodies all around the world funny that their people haven't noticed they are fakes? The CT people of course claim they are man made yet they cannot explain how NASA faked them.
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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Dec 18 3.38pm | |
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It's a compelling idea with logical reasoning but most of the evidence for a fake landing does not hold up to scrutiny. I can see the propaganda value of getting there before the Russians and that a plan to fake it might have been an option if the Russians looked like they might go, but the fact is that the Russian space effort was largely smoke and mirrors. They were nowhere near going to the Moon. The Americans might not have known that at the time of course but in any case, why spend billions of dollars on a space program if you planned to fake it?. It could only logically have been a fallback plan if they weren't ready. In that case, how does one explain the subsequent missions which had very little propaganda value? The best evidence I have seen for the fake camp is a film of the Astronauts apparently faking the size of Earth through the capsule window and the supposed prompts from NASA as when to speak. I'd like to see that explained. A much more interesting conspiracy is whether we stopped going to the moon of if we continued in secret and built bases on the dark side. That would explain a lot about not returning and the tales of Moon bases and space personnel that have been circulating. And don't forget those aLiens.
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Lyons550 Shirley 07 Dec 18 9.08pm | |
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China looking to land stuff on the Dark side of the moon Edited by Lyons550 (07 Dec 2018 9.08pm)
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chateauferret 07 Dec 18 9.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's a compelling idea with logical reasoning but most of the evidence for a fake landing does not hold up to scrutiny. I can see the propaganda value of getting there before the Russians and that a plan to fake it might have been an option if the Russians looked like they might go, but the fact is that the Russian space effort was largely smoke and mirrors. They were nowhere near going to the Moon. The Americans might not have known that at the time of course but in any case, why spend billions of dollars on a space program if you planned to fake it?. It could only logically have been a fallback plan if they weren't ready. In that case, how does one explain the subsequent missions which had very little propaganda value? The best evidence I have seen for the fake camp is a film of the Astronauts apparently faking the size of Earth through the capsule window and the supposed prompts from NASA as when to speak. I'd like to see that explained. A much more interesting conspiracy is whether we stopped going to the moon of if we continued in secret and built bases on the dark side. That would explain a lot about not returning and the tales of Moon bases and space personnel that have been circulating. And don't forget those aLiens. I think Occam's Razor deals with most of this. The Yamks when to the moon to score off the Russians and because they thought it might be strategically useful. When they got there they found it was pants so stopped bothering their arses as soon as the USSR jacked it in. The only other people to visit the moon were Wallace and Gromit.
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chateauferret 07 Dec 18 9.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
China looking to land stuff on the Dark side of the moon Edited by Lyons550 (07 Dec 2018 9.08pm) China couldn't land stuff in their own back gardens. Actually they were better at this stuff 4000 years ago than they are now.
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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Dec 18 10.36pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
I think Occam's Razor deals with most of this. The Yamks when to the moon to score off the Russians and because they thought it might be strategically useful. When they got there they found it was pants so stopped bothering their arses as soon as the USSR jacked it in. The only other people to visit the moon were Wallace and Gromit. The obvious reason why we have not been back to the Moon is that it is very expensive and of little scientific value. The official line is that NASA budget was cut drastically after the Moon missions and even the Sky Lab was partly made from spare parts to save money. One possible clue to the US military ambitions in space is that the Space Shuttle was originally designed to be a much sleeker more agile craft but ended up being like a flying brick to accommodate military insistence that it could carry large payloads. What did they want to put in space? Obviously, a financial incentive like mining minerals might make it viable for commercial interests to return to the Moon but technology has to make it practical and economic. Of course, travelling to Mars would be easier and cheaper from the Moon providing that the facilities were in place already.
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Stirlingsays 07 Dec 18 10.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's a compelling idea with logical reasoning but most of the evidence for a fake landing does not hold up to scrutiny. I can see the propaganda value of getting there before the Russians and that a plan to fake it might have been an option if the Russians looked like they might go, but the fact is that the Russian space effort was largely smoke and mirrors. They were nowhere near going to the Moon. The Americans might not have known that at the time of course but in any case, why spend billions of dollars on a space program if you planned to fake it?. It could only logically have been a fallback plan if they weren't ready. In that case, how does one explain the subsequent missions which had very little propaganda value? The best evidence I have seen for the fake camp is a film of the Astronauts apparently faking the size of Earth through the capsule window and the supposed prompts from NASA as when to speak. I'd like to see that explained. A much more interesting conspiracy is whether we stopped going to the moon of if we continued in secret and built bases on the dark side. That would explain a lot about not returning and the tales of Moon bases and space personnel that have been circulating. And don't forget those aLiens. I didn't find anything in the 'faking' of the size of the earth....and the 'supposed' prompts. What I do find with a lot of moon conspiracy theorists is a kind of....'look at that, this means, 'insert claim' when the reality is that there are perfectly rational explanations. The reasons the US didn't go back are to be found in the reasons they went in the first place......It was about beating the Russians.....once that was achieved and they had addressed the 'Kennedy' piece of history....they saw little financial sense in continually going there. Once Nasa had exhausted excuses for the extra expenditure the usual, 'we can spend money better elsewhere' crew take over and then it's bye bye trips to the moon. The reality that building bases on the moon was always going to be profitable long term in several senses doesn't really resonate in democracies where everything is about the next five years....not the long term. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2018 10.46pm)
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