Parish is the ultimate problem undoubtedly. The biggest issue with it now is I think, after the Frank de Boer debacle, he’s unlikely to ever change strategy again.

Seen a lot of Palace fans call for Dyche to come in if Roy goes. And sadly, I think that’s exact route he’ll go down. Whilst, on paper, this sounds good considering he got a pretty average team into a European spot last season. There is a reason his Burnley side are struggling this year. The brand of football has and always will hve a sell-by date. We need to stop hiring managers who play a brand of football that has a sell by date.

Dyche will be repeating the same process all over again. Will steady us up. Get us a couple of results against the big boys. We all bow down and worship him for a year. Then the sell by date passes and we need another firefighter to save us.

Sadly, next time, there will almost certainly be none left. As far as the old school English managers go, I actually think Roy is better than anything we’ve ever had by quite a distance. His record may not back this up. But in fairness, Sam & Pardew were properly backed in the transfer window & the money they spent is hardly looking like a good long-term investment at this point.

For now, I still think we should stick with Roy. We were poor tonight, but it’s easy to ignore the fact the first 2 goals were literally gifted to them by the ref.

Edited by Mstrobez (04 Dec 2018 11.30pm)

We're the Arthur over ere!

Hodgson for me and has been for a while.
He seems unable to play any formation other than 4-4-2 despite not having the players to fit the formation.

His substitutes are rubbish.
Our set pieces are poor.
Once we go a goal down we won't stand a chance.

I've started to wonder if Benteke's dreadful form over the last 18 months is due to Hodgson not understanding how to play him to his strengths?

He's trying to do the same as what he did last season without Cabaye and RLC. It just won't work.

I do get the impression that supporters are rapidly losing faith in Hodgson but I suspect that this is not shared by the Board.

Can anyone see other than a defeat on Saturday at W.Ham ?

I hear quite a few supporters with the same opinion.
Last season's heroics are being forgotten and his mantra that we are playing well and things will turn for the better is being ridiculed by many.

Another abject performance and defeat against W.Ham and I believe the calls for Hodgson to go will get louder and louder.My belief is that the Board have every confidence in him and not even considered his position.

The buck has to stop with Parish.

If he expects his manager to get us to perform without recognized strikers, no real plan b from the bench, then who else is to blame?

Last jan was a window to invest and build upon in july. We replaced and added players, but we didn't improve the squad.

Parish may not have all the answers and why should he, but you mean to tell me people at the club are not advising him??

HE IS NOT LISTENING OR LEARNING

This was once a quality forum....

We've been unable to rectify the striking conundrum since we came up. Never have the mistakes we've made been so magnified as they were tonight when our former striker, who we sold for a paltry £4 million on the basis that he was too old, scored his 8th goal of the season against us 3 years later.

We spent big on Benteke who was supposed to be the solution but has fallen to pieces after a strong start. Otherwise we have recruited crocks, has beens and never weres.

The manager's reluctance to play Sorloth or Ayew suggests to me that, despite his Scandinavian contacts, neither were his signing and as such we are in the ludicrous position of having to play our two wingers up front until Benteke returns.

This formation is clearly diminishing Zaha's ability to run at people and it was apparent tonight that we notably improved once Sorloth came on, despite his own ineffectiveness. The reason was that with a central striking figure, the two wingers were able to adopt more natural positions.

Our transfer policy hasn't been a total disaster in recent seasons, Sakho, Tomkins, Guaita, Meyer and Van Aanholt will all, in my opinion, go on to be remembered as strong signings. However, up front we have scouted and recruited abysmally.

Frankly we're at the point now where if you could get rid of all of our strikers and replace them with four totally at random from the Championship and Europe, as you can with letters in Scrabble, I'd say we can't do much worse.

I'm not questioning Roy's position at the club for any reason other than his age and would hope that proper preparation is being put into a possible successor, whether it be this summer or the next.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...