Lip readers are actually at odds as to whether the culprit called Sterling 'a Manc c...' or a black one, which is not surprising as even skilled lip readers can misunderstand. However.......

When you see the photos of Block B when the opposition are taking a corner there, just how different do they look from that Chelsea photo?

I know they are not shouting racist abuse at SP, but there's not that much difference in their facial expressions and gesticulations either.

I don’t think there is much disagreement over what was said..

The comparisons to Block B are just bizarre; the issue is not this Chelsea fans facial expressions or gesticulations, it’s the fact that he racially abused someone.

I made the comment about Block B as a lot of the press reports and comments are also talking about the fact that there was a row of middle aged men hurling all sorts of abuse (including the racial one)at Sterling in particular and players in general, and that this has been the case in football for a long time.

Now no way do I condone racial abuse, it has absolutely no place in football (or anywhere else for that matter), but there seems also to be a condemnation in these articles of ANY sort of abuse towards players, which is what set me off thinking about SP.

I don't know exactly what the HF shout at the opposition when they come to take a corner, but Palace Talk has threads where there is much emphasis put on our 'atmosphere' and SP being 'an intimidating place to come to' and a few references to players taking corners being given a hard time, and watching on a stream as I do every match, you get some great shots of Block B, and you know what - yup, there may not be racial abuse going on, but some of the facial expressions and arm gesticulations look very much the same as those seen in the video of the Sterling incident.

The question I'm asking (myself and anyone else) is where does passion and making an intimidating atmosphere for the opposition players stop and player abuse begin?

Lip readers are actually at odds as to whether the culprit called Sterling 'a Manc c...' or a black one, which is not surprising as even skilled lip readers can misunderstand. However.......

When you see the photos of Block B when the opposition are taking a corner there, just how different do they look from that Chelsea photo?

I know they are not shouting racist abuse at SP, but there's not that much difference in their facial expressions and gesticulations either.

I made the comment about Block B as a lot of the press reports and comments are also talking about the fact that there was a row of middle aged men hurling all sorts of abuse (including the racial one)at Sterling in particular and players in general, and that this has been the case in football for a long time.

Now no way do I condone racial abuse, it has absolutely no place in football (or anywhere else for that matter), but there seems also to be a condemnation in these articles of ANY sort of abuse towards players, which is what set me off thinking about SP.

I don't know exactly what the HF shout at the opposition when they come to take a corner, but Palace Talk has threads where there is much emphasis put on our 'atmosphere' and SP being 'an intimidating place to come to' and a few references to players taking corners being given a hard time, and watching on a stream as I do every match, you get some great shots of Block B, and you know what - yup, there may not be racial abuse going on, but some of the facial expressions and arm gesticulations look very much the same as those seen in the video of the Sterling incident.

The question I'm asking (myself and anyone else) is where does passion and making an intimidating atmosphere for the opposition players stop and player abuse begin?