Kagawa deserves his own thread- availble for 12m (suggestion)

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Nov 18 2.46pm
Originally posted by mattteo Miguel Almiron does not cost half of 12 million. They rejected a 19 million offer for him and they'd probably want close to 30 million. [Link] Meanwhile, Kagawa is an already proven player in the top leagues in the world and at international level. Atlanta United don't own him the MLS do & they are notorious for selling at knock down prices. Pro USA & Israel
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Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Nov 18 2.46pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Miguel Almiron does not cost half of 12 million. They rejected a 19 million offer for him and they'd probably want close to 30 million.

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Meanwhile, Kagawa is an already proven player in the top leagues in the world and at international level.

Atlanta United don't own him the MLS do & they are notorious for selling at knock down prices.

Pro USA & Israel

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mattteo 13 Nov 18 7.24pm
Originally posted by Crystal_Clear I always thought he was underrated when at Utd. Is he too much like Meyer though, and could you play them both in the same team ? Of course. Kagawa is more no. 10 and that's pretty much the only position where he can play, but he can do it both in a 4-3-3 and in a 4-2-3-1, while Meyer is more a left winger who used to cut inside on his right foot before being converted to central midfield (where it hasn't really worked out in my opinion). Imagine a team with these players from the midfield up after January: ....Milivojevic Macca.... ........Kouyate ....... .................................. Zaha Kagawa El Shaarawy Townsend Alan Meyer ..........Emiliano Sala....... ..........Alberth Elis........ That's replacing 5 players in the attacking zones who have scored 0 goals this season (Ben, Sorloth, Jordan, Schlupp+Macca who has been used on the wing) with 5 players who have scored between them 35 goals since September (Sala, Elis, Alan, El Shaarawy, Kagawa). And they scored and created dozens last year too. With a cost of 28 million at most for transfer fees (El Shaarawy 12, Kagawa 12, Sala 4, Alan free, Elis free) and 0 increase in salaries. Edited by mattteo (13 Nov 2018 7.29pm)
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mattteo

13 Nov 18 7.24pm

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

I always thought he was underrated when at Utd.

Is he too much like Meyer though, and could you play them both in the same team ?

Of course. Kagawa is more no. 10 and that's pretty much the only position where he can play, but he can do it both in a 4-3-3 and in a 4-2-3-1, while Meyer is more a left winger who used to cut inside on his right foot before being converted to central midfield (where it hasn't really worked out in my opinion).

Imagine a team with these players from the midfield up after January:

....Milivojevic Macca....
........Kouyate .......
..................................
Zaha Kagawa El Shaarawy
Townsend Alan Meyer

..........Emiliano Sala.......
..........Alberth Elis........

That's replacing 5 players in the attacking zones who have scored 0 goals this season (Ben, Sorloth, Jordan, Schlupp+Macca who has been used on the wing) with 5 players who have scored between them 35 goals since September (Sala, Elis, Alan, El Shaarawy, Kagawa). And they scored and created dozens last year too.

With a cost of 28 million at most for transfer fees (El Shaarawy 12, Kagawa 12, Sala 4, Alan free, Elis free) and 0 increase in salaries.

Edited by mattteo (13 Nov 2018 7.29pm)

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mattteo 13 Nov 18 7.27pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Miguel Almirón would cost half as much & is 4 or 5 years younger. Great at set pieces as well. Something we are lacking at the moment. I did see that free kick goal against New York this week. I'd like him, but your price is unrealistic. There are reports that West Ham will pay 28 million for him, I'm sure it will be at least 25. Kagawa is also a good set piece taker.
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mattteo

13 Nov 18 7.27pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Miguel Almirón would cost half as much & is 4 or 5 years younger. Great at set pieces as well. Something we are lacking at the moment.

I did see that free kick goal against New York this week. I'd like him, but your price is unrealistic. There are reports that West Ham will pay 28 million for him, I'm sure it will be at least 25.
Kagawa is also a good set piece taker.

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Nov 18 6.36pm
Originally posted by mattteo At 24 goals and 34 assists in 6800 minutes he's at Cr Ronaldo and Bale quantum level ) What is world class to you? How about a player who almost single handedly qualifies his natiinal team for every World Cup?? Edited by mattteo (12 Nov 2018 10.26pm) Lol
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Spiderman

Horsham 14 Nov 18 6.36pm

Originally posted by mattteo

At 24 goals and 34 assists in 6800 minutes he's at Cr Ronaldo and Bale quantum level )

What is world class to you? How about a player who almost single handedly qualifies his natiinal team for every World Cup??

Edited by mattteo (12 Nov 2018 10.26pm)

Lol

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Crystal_Clear Belfast 14 Nov 18 8.50pm
The biggest problem will be offloading the players we have here, and recouping the money.
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Crystal_Clear

Belfast 14 Nov 18 8.50pm

The biggest problem will be offloading the players we have here, and recouping the money.

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mattteo 14 Nov 18 8.55pm
Originally posted by Crystal_Clear The biggest problem will be offloading the players we have here, and recouping the money. A 20-30 million investment in a transfer period is not that big an investment for a Premier League team, even if you don't sell players of that value (though I can see Benteke and Sorloth bringing in at least 12-13 million). And it's an especially necessary investment when you need it to escape relegation cause you don't have players who score.
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mattteo

14 Nov 18 8.55pm

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

The biggest problem will be offloading the players we have here, and recouping the money.

A 20-30 million investment in a transfer period is not that big an investment for a Premier League team, even if you don't sell players of that value (though I can see Benteke and Sorloth bringing in at least 12-13 million).

And it's an especially necessary investment when you need it to escape relegation cause you don't have players who score.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Nov 18 10.59pm
Is he genuinely likely to work out in England? He really didn't look great when he was here. I think a tried and tested Championship striker would be better and around the same price. Red and Blue Army!
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ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Nov 18 10.59pm

Is he genuinely likely to work out in England? He really didn't look great when he was here. I think a tried and tested Championship striker would be better and around the same price.

Red and Blue Army!

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mattteo 15 Nov 18 6.31am
There are no tried and tested Championship strikers at the same price except for Maupay, who is short and more of a second striker. Kagawa is a midfielder though, not a striker, he could be a mf in a 4-3-3 system too. I remember him being pretty impressive at Man Utd too, but having little gametime.
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mattteo

15 Nov 18 6.31am

There are no tried and tested Championship strikers at the same price except for Maupay, who is short and more of a second striker.

Kagawa is a midfielder though, not a striker, he could be a mf in a 4-3-3 system too. I remember him being pretty impressive at Man Utd too, but having little gametime.

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spartakev2 Anerley 15 Nov 18 12.11pm
Originally posted by mattteo Of course. Kagawa is more no. 10 and that's pretty much the only position where he can play, but he can do it both in a 4-3-3 and in a 4-2-3-1, while Meyer is more a left winger who used to cut inside on his right foot before being converted to central midfield (where it hasn't really worked out in my opinion). Imagine a team with these players from the midfield up after January: ....Milivojevic Macca.... ........Kouyate ....... .................................. Zaha Kagawa El Shaarawy Townsend Alan Meyer ..........Emiliano Sala....... ..........Alberth Elis........ That's replacing 5 players in the attacking zones who have scored 0 goals this season (Ben, Sorloth, Jordan, Schlupp+Macca who has been used on the wing) with 5 players who have scored between them 35 goals since September (Sala, Elis, Alan, El Shaarawy, Kagawa). And they scored and created dozens last year too. With a cost of 28 million at most for transfer fees (El Shaarawy 12, Kagawa 12, Sala 4, Alan free, Elis free) and 0 increase in salaries. Edited by mattteo (13 Nov 2018 7.29pm) So where does he fit into Roy's 442. Because that's the only system he plays....
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spartakev2

Anerley 15 Nov 18 12.11pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Of course. Kagawa is more no. 10 and that's pretty much the only position where he can play, but he can do it both in a 4-3-3 and in a 4-2-3-1, while Meyer is more a left winger who used to cut inside on his right foot before being converted to central midfield (where it hasn't really worked out in my opinion).

Imagine a team with these players from the midfield up after January:

....Milivojevic Macca....
........Kouyate .......
..................................
Zaha Kagawa El Shaarawy
Townsend Alan Meyer

..........Emiliano Sala.......
..........Alberth Elis........

With a cost of 28 million at most for transfer fees (El Shaarawy 12, Kagawa 12, Sala 4, Alan free, Elis free) and 0 increase in salaries.

Edited by mattteo (13 Nov 2018 7.29pm)

So where does he fit into Roy's 442. Because that's the only system he plays....

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Nobbybm Dartford 15 Nov 18 12.59pm
Originally posted by mattteo A 20-30 million investment in a transfer period is not that big an investment for a Premier League team, even if you don't sell players of that value (though I can see Benteke and Sorloth bringing in at least 12-13 million). And it's an especially necessary investment when you need it to escape relegation cause you don't have players who score. It's an immense investment if you haven't got that kind of money. Also, it's not just about cost but wages etc & we have proven we're not up for breaching FFP. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Nobbybm

Dartford 15 Nov 18 12.59pm

Originally posted by mattteo

And it's an especially necessary investment when you need it to escape relegation cause you don't have players who score.

It's an immense investment if you haven't got that kind of money. Also, it's not just about cost but wages etc & we have proven we're not up for breaching FFP.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 16 Nov 18 11.52am
As good as some of these suggestions are I just cannot see us spending anything like figures quoted here. January will inevitably leave us with the old familiar feeling of disappointment.
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MonsterMunch

Cambridge 16 Nov 18 11.52am

As good as some of these suggestions are I just cannot see us spending anything like figures quoted here. January will inevitably leave us with the old familiar feeling of disappointment.

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Bangell Oxford 17 Nov 18 1.49pm
Originally posted by mattteo Of course. Kagawa is more no. 10 and that's pretty much the only position where he can play, but he can do it both in a 4-3-3 and in a 4-2-3-1, while Meyer is more a left winger who used to cut inside on his right foot before being converted to central midfield (where it hasn't really worked out in my opinion). Imagine a team with these players from the midfield up after January: ....Milivojevic Macca.... ........Kouyate ....... .................................. Zaha Kagawa El Shaarawy Townsend Alan Meyer ..........Emiliano Sala....... ..........Alberth Elis........ That's replacing 5 players in the attacking zones who have scored 0 goals this season (Ben, Sorloth, Jordan, Schlupp+Macca who has been used on the wing) with 5 players who have scored between them 35 goals since September (Sala, Elis, Alan, El Shaarawy, Kagawa). And they scored and created dozens last year too. With a cost of 28 million at most for transfer fees (El Shaarawy 12, Kagawa 12, Sala 4, Alan free, Elis free) and 0 increase in salaries. Edited by mattteo (13 Nov 2018 7.29pm) You live in an absolute fantasy world
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Bangell

Oxford 17 Nov 18 1.49pm