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jeeagles 22 Oct 18 6.57pm | |
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I think a lot of fans underestime how touch it is to stay in the Premier league. As teams stay up for longer, the expectations of fans grow to want to achieve something that's beyond their means. After they start to want someone that unachievable they clubs start to turn on themselves and become toxic. There's been 49 premiership clubs. Loads have been in for a season or two, then completely disappeared. Lots have had a boom or bust business model which has distroyed them. Only 6 teams have never been religated. It's pretty much inevitable that we will at some point. I couldn't find a stat on how many have lasted 6 consecutive seasons but I'm sure it will be lower than people expect. Going up and staying up was a fluke. Expecting to stay up shows progress. We just have to be patient and hope we don't mess it up.
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*jack* Eastbourne 22 Oct 18 7.47pm | |
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How does building a new stand make us more competitive? Revenue from a few thousand extra seats won't add enough extra revenue to make any difference and the work involved in making it happen will take the club managements eye off the ball even more than it is already.
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PatrickA London 22 Oct 18 8.34pm | |
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It’s not that long ago we were playing with ten men behind the ball, David Wright in midfield and Jermaine Easter up front..
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ex hibitionist Hastings 22 Oct 18 8.52pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Moaning Minnies' by Midlands Eagle too many on this forum atm, we HAVE progressed, when we came up we had Parr and Moxey at left back, now PVA, in the middle Meyer, Luka and Jimmymac over Jedi, KG and O'Keefe, striker-wise it's gone wrong but Parrish has really splashed the cash at times, but of necessity he has become too short-termist, not his intention but that's the way things have panned out, though he has clearly rubbed a few managers up the wrong way, we've been poor and thrown away points this season but this "Parrish has screwed us up" line is so wide of the mark, delays to the new stand? Aren't there always and do we really know how much control he has over the process. As a team we keep possession far better than we could in our first few seasons, for the first 30 min v Wolves we looked like the accomplished premier side and them like an underdog away side trying to snatch something, can some of you not put up with a poor run without throwing your toys? If we get relegated we could fall into the Charlton trap with a load of over paid uninterested players, that's where Parrish may be cuplable, I'd like to see us grooming talent and adding value like Bournemouth do, not expensive fire fighting which is bumping the wage bill up so high, but get one thing clear, Parrish is mainly responsible for the most successful period on our history, some on here are 'so whatting'at the prospect of the new stand, unbelievable, point out SP's failings by all means, but casting him as a failure or a liability is f*cking ridiculous.
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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 22 Oct 18 8.56pm | |
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Having watched the first half of Leicester vs Arsenal I have come to the conclusion we have clearly regressed this season. Leicester, a team we thrashed not long ago, have played Arsenal off the park with their slick passing, pace and precision. Pretty much everything we fail to demonstrate week in week out. Arsenal have been lucky as they should have conceded a pen and should be playing with 9 men.
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ex hibitionist Hastings 22 Oct 18 9.00pm | |
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Originally posted by *jack*
How does building a new stand make us more competitive? Revenue from a few thousand extra seats won't add enough extra revenue to make any difference and the work involved in making it happen will take the club managements eye off the ball even more than it is already. brilliant, let's keep Selhurst just the way it is, that's sure to attract ambitious players,
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tillysosser far far away 22 Oct 18 9.02pm | |
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it means that after 6 years of being in the premiergreed we would have something to show for it.
Originally posted by *jack*
How does building a new stand make us more competitive? Revenue from a few thousand extra seats won't add enough extra revenue to make any difference and the work involved in making it happen will take the club managements eye off the ball even more than it is already. Edited by tillysosser (22 Oct 2018 9.02pm)
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Maine Eagle USA 22 Oct 18 9.35pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Moaning Minnies' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ex hibitionist
too many on this forum atm, we HAVE progressed, when we came up we had Parr and Moxey at left back, now PVA, in the middle Meyer, Luka and Jimmymac over Jedi, KG and O'Keefe, striker-wise it's gone wrong but Parrish has really splashed the cash at times, but of necessity he has become too short-termist, not his intention but that's the way things have panned out, though he has clearly rubbed a few managers up the wrong way, we've been poor and thrown away points this season but this "Parrish has screwed us up" line is so wide of the mark, delays to the new stand? Aren't there always and do we really know how much control he has over the process. As a team we keep possession far better than we could in our first few seasons, for the first 30 min v Wolves we looked like the accomplished premier side and them like an underdog away side trying to snatch something, can some of you not put up with a poor run without throwing your toys? If we get relegated we could fall into the Charlton trap with a load of over paid uninterested players, that's where Parrish may be cuplable, I'd like to see us grooming talent and adding value like Bournemouth do, not expensive fire fighting which is bumping the wage bill up so high, but get one thing clear, Parrish is mainly responsible for the most successful period on our history, some on here are 'so whatting'at the prospect of the new stand, unbelievable, point out SP's failings by all means, but casting him as a failure or a liability is f*cking ridiculous. We have had hundreds of millions of pounds thrown at us. I would hope we would have replaced Dean Moxey. Good you talk about left backs, when Pap Souare had a car accident we didnt have a single other senior left back at the club - how many years was that into SP's reign? That is p&ss poor squad management. Again after several years if we had not assembled some players who can play a bit more football than Mile Jedinak then Parish would want shooting. SP has done some things well, and made some good signings hear and there. Vastly outweighing that he has made error after error, recklessly ill equipping the club to compete in the Premier League. Lets review some of those howlers: 1 - When Mandanda left we just forgot to replace him, maybe the post it note fell of SP's desk. Through some lucky miracle Hennessey has actually come good, after we finally get a player in to challenge him....hmmm....coincidence? Yes SP has presided over our longest stay in the top flight, but its more through luck than judgement. Edited by Maine Eagle (22 Oct 2018 9.36pm)
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the.universal 23 Oct 18 2.31am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Moaning Minnies' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Maine Eagle
We have had hundreds of millions of pounds thrown at us. I would hope we would have replaced Dean Moxey. Good you talk about left backs, when Pap Souare had a car accident we didnt have a single other senior left back at the club - how many years was that into SP's reign? That is p&ss poor squad management. Again after several years if we had not assembled some players who can play a bit more football than Mile Jedinak then Parish would want shooting. SP has done some things well, and made some good signings hear and there. Vastly outweighing that he has made error after error, recklessly ill equipping the club to compete in the Premier League. Lets review some of those howlers: 1 - When Mandanda left we just forgot to replace him, maybe the post it note fell of SP's desk. Through some lucky miracle Hennessey has actually come good, after we finally get a player in to challenge him....hmmm....coincidence? Yes SP has presided over our longest stay in the top flight, but its more through luck than judgement. Edited by Maine Eagle (22 Oct 2018 9.36pm) No, it’s because he gets more of the big decisions right than wrong, specifically manager appointments. Untangle your knickers and realise we’ll be ok this season.
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The Dolphin 23 Oct 18 8.09am | |
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I don't want to start another Alan Pardew thread because my dislike for him is absolute!
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geoff Midhurst 23 Oct 18 10.27am | |
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In terms of progress i think our playing squad has improved (on paper) than the team that got us promoted. However our fighting spirit has been lost and the spirit the squad had that won us promotion was awesome. Apart from that we have failed to progress in key areas. Those areas are in the board room. Our recruitment has been hit and miss and mainly panicky, our dealing with managers and their recruitment has been shocking. Our scouting network seems non existent. We lost Stephen Reid a huge loss and replaced him with a cheap option. Yes we have spent money but badly. Beneteke has been poor (polite), Sakho was a Parish purchase to please the fans, Jach- why, Sorloth poor player etc etc. Its in the corridors of power we need to learn and quickly and we need to stop becoming an old boys club and start becoming a serious business.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Oct 18 11.00am | |
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Originally posted by the.universal
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Moaning Minnies' by Midlands Eagle No, it’s because he gets more of the big decisions right than wrong, specifically manager appointments. Untangle your knickers and realise we’ll be ok this season. It’s because Parish gets the 2nd decision in the season right, after getting the first decision wrong, whether that be hiring, not firing, signing or non signing of players. Each time we’re in dire straits when it was avoidable in August. It ends up costing more money than it originally would’ve done and those additional costs chip away at the average spend allowed per summer and the % of revenue on wages according to FFP rules. Then there’s the lack of continuity issues in the squad. The most obvious one is Benteke last season in a team trying to play triangles through the 2 back lines at SP. Don’t get me started on FDB and his 3-4-3 and Huddersfield debacle. I and the whole sports broadsheet media community were predicting a failure and that’s exactly what happened. Back to basics now this month. Hopefully it may just suit and help us.
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