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Stirlingsays 30 Sep 19 11.20am | |
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Originally posted by W12
just been listening to the same podcast about 10min ago and did the same. Silicon valley is toxic. I deleted my only social media account (twitter) recently and it's just long form podcasts/videos for me from now on. Agreed. I stopped posting to Facebook and Twitter and stopped using Google search....using alternative sites like Bitchute (which does have issues) Minds and duck duck for search. But yeah....podcasts/videos rather than use their gate keeping leftist propaganda. Silicon Valley needs to be broken up. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Sep 2019 11.22am)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Oct 19 6.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
After listening to Douglas Murray mention this in an interview look at what you get when you put 'Black Couple' into a search result using the Google algorithm.
I'm the body double of the guy in the second photo on the bottom row.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 01 Oct 19 9.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Now look at what you get when you put 'White Couple' into a search result using the Google algorithm. Third row & second left I believe are DanH & Funty on a weekend break in Edinburgh recently
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 01 Oct 19 9.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Third row & second left I believe are DanH & Funty on a weekend break in Edinburgh recently Would
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 19 12.00am | |
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Having just stumbled on this thread I had to agree that it all looked a little bit odd to me. So I did some digging. It seems this has been noticed and used by others to try to suggest some kind of bias is being built into algorithms, to the disadvantage of "conservative" opinion. However, it turns out that the explanation is actually quite simple and not at all discriminatory. This explanation came from Google:- "Google Image Search works by analysis of textual clues found within image tags and file names and also in surrounding text on the web page. The search algorithm doesn't have the ability to actually “know” with certainty what is in an image. You can see the artifact of “close, but not quite right” play out in a myriad of examples. In fact, I would venture to say that most image search results are typically more wrong than right. This is because the quality of relevance signals for image subject matter are relatively weak. So if you do a search for [white couples] and you get a mixture of white and non-white couples, you ought to be happy to have found images that matched your query even if some of the image results did not. Edit: I just went to Google Image search to double check what you were seeing. I noticed the inter-racial couples you spoke of in your original post. The answer is simple. In many cases, the title of the image was “Black and White Couples” (or something like that). Your search of “white couples” is a strong match for half of that title. It is therefore not surprising that these results are showing up in your search for white couples." So sorry to disappoint all of you who think there is another big conspiracy going on. It just ain't so.
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Teddy Eagle 10 Oct 19 1.10am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Having just stumbled on this thread I had to agree that it all looked a little bit odd to me. So I did some digging. It seems this has been noticed and used by others to try to suggest some kind of bias is being built into algorithms, to the disadvantage of "conservative" opinion. However, it turns out that the explanation is actually quite simple and not at all discriminatory. This explanation came from Google:- "Google Image Search works by analysis of textual clues found within image tags and file names and also in surrounding text on the web page. The search algorithm doesn't have the ability to actually “know” with certainty what is in an image. You can see the artifact of “close, but not quite right” play out in a myriad of examples. In fact, I would venture to say that most image search results are typically more wrong than right. This is because the quality of relevance signals for image subject matter are relatively weak. So if you do a search for [white couples] and you get a mixture of white and non-white couples, you ought to be happy to have found images that matched your query even if some of the image results did not. Edit: I just went to Google Image search to double check what you were seeing. I noticed the inter-racial couples you spoke of in your original post. The answer is simple. In many cases, the title of the image was “Black and White Couples” (or something like that). Your search of “white couples” is a strong match for half of that title. It is therefore not surprising that these results are showing up in your search for white couples." So sorry to disappoint all of you who think there is another big conspiracy going on. It just ain't so. So presumably a search for Black couples yields the same result since it is an equally close match?
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Oct 19 8.47am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So presumably a search for Black couples yields the same result since it is an equally close match? I tried it after Stirling pointed it out. He was entirely right. Basically black couples for black couples. White couples interracial - nearly all of them. I suppose that is what is on the ads on TV too.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 19 10.16am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So presumably a search for Black couples yields the same result since it is an equally close match? No, because you are missing the point. It seems the reason that the term "white couple" returns some pictures of mixed race couples but that "black couple" does not is simply because of the way we handle language. When we refer to a mixed race couple we usually use the term "Black and white". We tend not to use "White and black". Why is another question. So "Black and white couple" returns results for "white couple" searches whilst "White and black couple" won't for "Black couple" searches because that's not how the pictures are labelled.
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Teddy Eagle 10 Oct 19 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No, because you are missing the point. It seems the reason that the term "white couple" returns some pictures of mixed race couples but that "black couple" does not is simply because of the way we handle language. When we refer to a mixed race couple we usually use the term "Black and white". We tend not to use "White and black". Why is another question. So "Black and white couple" returns results for "white couple" searches whilst "White and black couple" won't for "Black couple" searches because that's not how the pictures are labelled. What? No one has mentioned black and white. Just white couple and black couple. One returns mixed couples and the other doesn’t.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 19 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
What? No one has mentioned black and white. Just white couple and black couple. One returns mixed couples and the other doesn’t. Please read it again. You are missing the point. Read the original response from Google that I copied.
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Teddy Eagle 10 Oct 19 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Please read it again. You are missing the point. Read the original response from Google that I copied. Isn’t it conceivable that you’re missing the point?
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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 10 Oct 19 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Isn’t it conceivable that you’re missing the point? Don’t be silly, Teddy.
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