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DANGERCLOSE London 02 Oct 18 4.18pm
This is Crystal Palace we never do things the easy way, I think you can change the playing staff and the manager but we will do the same thing, its called the palace way. I have been a fan for 40 years and its always been like that.
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London 02 Oct 18 4.18pm

This is Crystal Palace we never do things the easy way, I think you can change the playing staff and the manager but we will do the same thing, its called the palace way.

I have been a fan for 40 years and its always been like that.

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bicycle repair man 02 Oct 18 4.25pm
it looks like being another long hard winter,with the aim to finish in the top 17. although there are probably more than 3 teams worse than us,but we must stop throwing points away.
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it looks like being another long hard winter,with the aim to finish in the top 17.
although there are probably more than 3 teams worse than us,but we must stop throwing points away.

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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 02 Oct 18 4.28pm
don't think anyone can say that this season is a relegation battle and akin to previous seasons where we've struggled. Things aren't great there's no doubt about that but we have some new players that we're still working out how to get the best out of and a striker situation that we still haven't sorted out. The latter annoys me a bit, but I'm not overly worried this early in the season as I think we'll work out a way to get the best out of the players and have a steady season. I think the progress is that in this turn in the PL we've managed to stay up whereas in previous years' campaigns we haven't lasted more than a season or two. Things need to improve on the pitch but I think we have the players to have a better season than the last one.
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don't think anyone can say that this season is a relegation battle and akin to previous seasons where we've struggled. Things aren't great there's no doubt about that but we have some new players that we're still working out how to get the best out of and a striker situation that we still haven't sorted out. The latter annoys me a bit, but I'm not overly worried this early in the season as I think we'll work out a way to get the best out of the players and have a steady season.

I think the progress is that in this turn in the PL we've managed to stay up whereas in previous years' campaigns we haven't lasted more than a season or two.

Things need to improve on the pitch but I think we have the players to have a better season than the last one.

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JRW2 Dulwich 02 Oct 18 4.32pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet don't think anyone can say that this season is a relegation battle and akin to previous seasons where we've struggled. Things aren't great there's no doubt about that but we have some new players that we're still working out how to get the best out of and a striker situation that we still haven't sorted out. The latter annoys me a bit, but I'm not overly worried this early in the season as I think we'll work out a way to get the best out of the players and have a steady season. I think the progress is that in this turn in the PL we've managed to stay up whereas in previous years' campaigns we haven't lasted more than a season or two. Things need to improve on the pitch but I think we have the players to have a better season than the last one. Good point.
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Dulwich 02 Oct 18 4.32pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

I think the progress is that in this turn in the PL we've managed to stay up whereas in previous years' campaigns we haven't lasted more than a season or two.

Things need to improve on the pitch but I think we have the players to have a better season than the last one.

Good point.

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EagleinSF San Fransisco 02 Oct 18 4.34pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE This is Crystal Palace we never do things the easy way, I think you can change the playing staff and the manager but we will do the same thing, its called the palace way. I have been a fan for 40 years and its always been like that. LOL - This. I've been a fan for 50 years and its the Palace rollercoaster. We have made progress, but in the Lodsa money league unless you're spending ungoldly amounts you start to go backward. It would be nice to have a season or 2 looking up rather than down but hey its Palace
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San Fransisco 02 Oct 18 4.34pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

This is Crystal Palace we never do things the easy way, I think you can change the playing staff and the manager but we will do the same thing, its called the palace way.

I have been a fan for 40 years and its always been like that.

LOL - This. I've been a fan for 50 years and its the Palace rollercoaster.

We have made progress, but in the Lodsa money league unless you're spending ungoldly amounts you start to go backward.

It would be nice to have a season or 2 looking up rather than down but hey its Palace

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 02 Oct 18 4.45pm
I think there's a law of diminishing returns when it comes to being a PL football club. Our spend is broadly commensurate with our status. Are we finding gems though? Perhaps not. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I think there's a law of diminishing returns when it comes to being a PL football club. Our spend is broadly commensurate with our status. Are we finding gems though? Perhaps not.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 02 Oct 18 6.04pm
this league gets stronger year on year all we do is play keeping up with the jones’ that is all we can do unless we get brought out by some billionaire i genuinally do know what people expect ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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this league gets stronger year on year

all we do is play keeping up with the jones’

that is all we can do unless we get brought out by some billionaire

i genuinally do know what people expect

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 02 Oct 18 6.23pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle this league gets stronger year on year all we do is play keeping up with the jones’ that is all we can do unless we get brought out by some billionaire i genuinally do know what people expect pray tell
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Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 02 Oct 18 6.23pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

this league gets stronger year on year

all we do is play keeping up with the jones’

that is all we can do unless we get brought out by some billionaire

i genuinally do know what people expect

pray tell

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michaelpearce grays 02 Oct 18 6.42pm
Originally posted by EagleinSF LOL - This. I've been a fan for 50 years and its the Palace rollercoaster. We have made progress, but in the Lodsa money league unless you're spending ungoldly amounts you start to go backward. It would be nice to have a season or 2 looking up rather than down but hey its Palace no you wouldnt you would be bored what fun would we have if we was always safe , still say the best season to be a palace fan was when we went into admin deducted 10points stay up on the last game away,march to lloyds get told we are still alive 10 mins after deadline,come on thats why we support them
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grays 02 Oct 18 6.42pm

Originally posted by EagleinSF

LOL - This. I've been a fan for 50 years and its the Palace rollercoaster.

We have made progress, but in the Lodsa money league unless you're spending ungoldly amounts you start to go backward.

It would be nice to have a season or 2 looking up rather than down but hey its Palace

no you wouldnt you would be bored what fun would we have if we was always safe ,

still say the best season to be a palace fan was when we went into admin deducted 10points stay up on the last game away,march to lloyds get told we are still alive 10 mins after deadline,come on thats why we support them

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dp Tunbridge Wells 02 Oct 18 6.45pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I think there's a law of diminishing returns when it comes to being a PL football club. Our spend is broadly commensurate with our status. Are we finding gems though? Perhaps not. Wan Bissaka?
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Tunbridge Wells 02 Oct 18 6.45pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I think there's a law of diminishing returns when it comes to being a PL football club. Our spend is broadly commensurate with our status. Are we finding gems though? Perhaps not.

Wan Bissaka?

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Booted Eagle Bristol 02 Oct 18 6.47pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin We seem to make a lot of costly individual errors but - no one can legislate for a £30m striker suddenly not scoring for the thick end of a year albeit he should have been outed regardless of the loss. With a decent Centre Forward we would be in this pickle. We are bemoaning Ward and Sakho missing gilt edged chances but in reality we are having a go at two defenders missing the target - where were our forwards and midfielders is what bothers me more! Another worry is the purchase/loans of Ayew, Koyoute and the like - middle of the road players who won't make us better. They take the place of Cabaye and RLC - no contest in that they are inferior players. I accept they are better than the Puncheons of this world butI would prefer to bring youth through to be honest and have a proper spend up on fewer players. As someone else posted yesterday we are going down again - it is just a question of which season - true - unless we get a couple of better players in and soon and I hate to say it but we need to sell Wilf to do it. Last night showed that the lesser teams will crowd him out now and so he is less effective and suddenly we can't rely on him and there is no Plan B. If he is marked by two then don't give him the ball I guess - use it elsewhere. Against the better teams he will get more space hopefully. We should get out of it this time but January will be very important for us and the Summer even more so. Still - it's going to be another hard season - it's never dull with CPFC! Meyer can fit into the role of Cabaye. Think we tried very hard to get RLC back on loan from Chelski but they didn't budge. Think we will try again in Jan. The striker position is really hitting us hard though. The likes of Bournemouth and Watford have scored double our amount of goals whilst our defence has been better and equal. In the transfer market you need to spend £20 million plus nowadays to get anybody who looks capable of bagging goals in this league. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 02 Oct 18 6.47pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

We seem to make a lot of costly individual errors but - no one can legislate for a £30m striker suddenly not scoring for the thick end of a year albeit he should have been outed regardless of the loss.
With a decent Centre Forward we would be in this pickle.
We are bemoaning Ward and Sakho missing gilt edged chances but in reality we are having a go at two defenders missing the target - where were our forwards and midfielders is what bothers me more!
Another worry is the purchase/loans of Ayew, Koyoute and the like - middle of the road players who won't make us better.
They take the place of Cabaye and RLC - no contest in that they are inferior players.
I accept they are better than the Puncheons of this world butI would prefer to bring youth through to be honest and have a proper spend up on fewer players.
As someone else posted yesterday we are going down again - it is just a question of which season - true - unless we get a couple of better players in and soon and I hate to say it but we need to sell Wilf to do it.
Last night showed that the lesser teams will crowd him out now and so he is less effective and suddenly we can't rely on him and there is no Plan B. If he is marked by two then don't give him the ball I guess - use it elsewhere.
Against the better teams he will get more space hopefully.
We should get out of it this time but January will be very important for us and the Summer even more so.
Still - it's going to be another hard season - it's never dull with CPFC!

Meyer can fit into the role of Cabaye. Think we tried very hard to get RLC back on loan from Chelski but they didn't budge. Think we will try again in Jan. The striker position is really hitting us hard though. The likes of Bournemouth and Watford have scored double our amount of goals whilst our defence has been better and equal. In the transfer market you need to spend £20 million plus nowadays to get anybody who looks capable of bagging goals in this league.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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dp Tunbridge Wells 02 Oct 18 6.48pm
Seriously, look at us 5 years ago and look at us now. We have made progress, but then so has everyone else, except for those who haven’t, like Sunderland. We might do a Burnley one year, but I am going to savour the days when we are fighting relegation from the Premier League. We will be fighting to stay in the Championship soon enough.
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Tunbridge Wells 02 Oct 18 6.48pm

Seriously, look at us 5 years ago and look at us now. We have made progress, but then so has everyone else, except for those who haven’t, like Sunderland.

We might do a Burnley one year, but I am going to savour the days when we are fighting relegation from the Premier League. We will be fighting to stay in the Championship soon enough.

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