You supplied the quote and made the claim. Not me. I pointed out it was wrong. If you want to show me you are correct, provide the evidence.

Apt in the circumstances? Don’t you see the link between Labour resisting the use of a widely accepted definition of anti-semitism for so long, crass anti-semitism within the party, and you quoting a white supremacist in the circumstances.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

You made a counter claim but provided no evidence for it....So really you doing the same thing.

I quoted Voitaire and whatever the background of who said it the truth of the quote is accurate.

Stalin is meant to have said, 'A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic'. That's coming from one of the most evil men we know of yet it's still true.

What is within the quote is more important than who said it.....but if any of these attributions are inaccurate then I apologise for that.

As for Labour and anti semitism......Yes, I'd agree that they have a lot of it.....however, that doesn't legitimate those definitions......definitions that come from a Jewish activist movement who have been bullying nations into accepting it.....and then selling the line that it's 'accepted'.

No foreign state should be free from criticism.....it's ridiculous.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

On Sunday night I heard a spoke man for Jeremy Corbyn on 5 live.

He was insisting that what Corbyn had said wasn't antisemitic because it was only antizonist.

They couldn't seem to face up to the idea that they might be antisemitic because it wouldn't fit in with their own self image of being antifacist, feminist, antiwar bla bla bla.

They were explaining why Jewish people shouldn't find it offensive, but forgetting that they aren't Jewish people and that Jewish people do find it offensive.

Stirling, here you go.

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I hope that helps. Also, the quote is fallacious as one can criticise Israeli policy without being anti-semitic. However, many people seem to struggle to manage even that.

But just in case you still think it is ok to use it you might want to read it in full context:
"To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize? We all know who it is that we are not permitted to criticize. We all know who it is that it is a sin to criticize. Sodomy is no longer a sin in America. Treason, and burning and spitting and urinating on the American flag is no longer a sin in America. Gross desecration of Catholic or Protestant religious symbols is no longer a sin in America. Cop-killing is no longer a sin in America - it is celebrated in rap "music." The degradation of beautiful young girls in disgusting p***.graphy is no longer a sin in America. The killing by the multiple millions of the next generation in the womb is no longer a sin in America. But anti-semitism is the ultimate sin in America. But as things get worse and worse, we are losing our fear of this silly word. We all know who it is that controls the wealth of our nation through their exchanges and counting-houses in New York. We all know who it is that has deformed the minds of two generations of Americans with their television programs."
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Here is the new agreed upon definition of anti-semitism:
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Here is the section on Voltaire:
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You are welcome.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

And all great examples of weakness. The laws achieve nothing other than add fuel to the fire. It is what I genuinely fail to understand about the people behind this lunacy. Jewish people produce a massively disproportionate amount of Nobel prize winners in all the categories. Collectively they can reflect back on an accumulated wisdom that is second to none.

And yet they pull stunts like this. Short term solutions to long term problems and in total contrast to what I have seen as the wider strength of Jewish people throughout history in that they have a philosophy of planting trees whose fruit they will never enjoy.

I am a supporter of Isreal. I see what they did with a piece of useless Desert and am in awe. Their military prowess and performance on the battlefield since Israel's creation have been staggering.

And yet they do nothing concrete to deal with the underlying hatred that is going to consume them. The West see Israel as a handy asset in the Middle East. A key component that helps them wield the political control that has kept the oil flowing. That is why the West supports Israel.

But the age of oil, or rather the Middle Eastern domination of that commodity, is coming to an end. Might take a couple of more decades but then, I suspect its game over, at least in terms of unbridled Western support.

Hence part of the reason why Corbyn has drawn so much ire for his views. In some ways its a validation of his credentials as a potential Prime Minister in waiting. If the Israeli lobby no longer treats him as a joke then perhaps there is a lesson in that for all of us.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Do any of the more right wing posters on here actually give a s*** or be influenced in any way by what the left do?

If not, it’s really not worth posting these threads. Unless you just want a nice space to agree with each other.

Vive le Roy!