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Mr Palaceman Flag 22 Aug 18 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

well done on giving up.
I don't want to stop.
It's like smoking and cancer.
Not everyone who smokes gets it.
Many who don't get it.
So not everyone who drinks will get cirrhosis.
Life choice and life's chance.

True not everyone, just half..

Half of all people who are regular smokers will die of a smoking relayed illness.

In regards to alcohol, most drink way too much. I don't think people realise how it affects their health until its too late.

It's a free country though.

 


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Stan Laurel

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jeeagles Flag 22 Aug 18 3.55pm

Interesting article. Particularly the point where he said that he "needed a reason to abstain totally"

When I was a kid, I used to see adults drinking at events and wonder why some of them got so drunk when they had paid to go and see something. Wind the clock on a few years, an I now find that I go to events as an excuse to have a few beers with my friends.

I often, half-jokingly describe myself as a functioning alcoholic, but every now and then I go on a complete break. When I do this I find I almost have to drop of the radar, as pretty much every social event I go to involves booze. If I do go out, it generally takes a couple of weeks for me to stop asking for a beer in a place as my first instinct, or being annoyed that I cant have one. During these breaks, my bank balance, sleep, health, and work generally improves, but I do get board.

Having said that, I've made most of my friends though pubs, sports, concerts, etc. These have all revolved around alcohol. So it's brought great benefits too. If I didn't have booze, I may have been richer, thinner, and more successful - but I'd regret missing out on all the fun.

I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of relationship with beer. It just seems that there aren't many fun sociable activities that take place without it.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Aug 18 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Interesting article. Particularly the point where he said that he "needed a reason to abstain totally"

When I was a kid, I used to see adults drinking at events and wonder why some of them got so drunk when they had paid to go and see something. Wind the clock on a few years, an I now find that I go to events as an excuse to have a few beers with my friends.

I often, half-jokingly describe myself as a functioning alcoholic, but every now and then I go on a complete break. When I do this I find I almost have to drop of the radar, as pretty much every social event I go to involves booze. If I do go out, it generally takes a couple of weeks for me to stop asking for a beer in a place as my first instinct, or being annoyed that I cant have one. During these breaks, my bank balance, sleep, health, and work generally improves, but I do get board.

Having said that, I've made most of my friends though pubs, sports, concerts, etc. These have all revolved around alcohol. So it's brought great benefits too. If I didn't have booze, I may have been richer, thinner, and more successful - but I'd regret missing out on all the fun.

I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of relationship with beer. It just seems that there aren't many fun sociable activities that take place without it.

Good post and I see a lot of myself in your comments.

 


One more point

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 22 Aug 18 7.12pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

True not everyone, just half..

Half of all people who are regular smokers will die of a smoking relayed illness.

In regards to alcohol, most drink way too much. I don't think people realise how it affects their health until its too late.

It's a free country though.

Fair enough smoking is bad but where does that stat come from.
I feel you can align a bad habit to any health condition.
Just convenient for the argument against it I suppose.

 

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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 22 Aug 18 8.37pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

ive been in the grip of alcohol for a few hours tonight.
nay bad...

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 23 Aug 18 4.05am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Alcohol plays a central part to many people's social time.
I have also worked in many places where there is a drinking culture, and if you are not part of that culture, you'll find it difficult to progress.

We find humour in drinking stories, when in fact they could be viewed as quite sad.

It can impact family time, functionality at work, without you even realising


Adrian Chiles. 100 units a week ? lightweight

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 23 Aug 18 7.10am Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Alcohol plays a central part to many people's social time.
I have also worked in many places where there is a drinking culture, and if you are not part of that culture, you'll find it difficult to progress.

We find humour in drinking stories, when in fact they could be viewed as quite sad.

It can impact family time, functionality at work, without you even realising


Adrian Chiles. 100 units a week ? lightweight

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Pussay Patrol Flag 23 Aug 18 10.51am

I hate him so much I made a small doll which looks like him and stick pins in it

Voodoo Chiles

 


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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 23 Aug 18 1.10pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Alcohol plays a central part to many people's social time.
I have also worked in many places where there is a drinking culture, and if you are not part of that culture, you'll find it difficult to progress.

We find humour in drinking stories, when in fact they could be viewed as quite sad.

It can impact family time, functionality at work, without you even realising


Adrian Chiles. 100 units a week ? lightweight

FH makes some very good points here. My Dad joined the Met Police in 1973. His first 2 years in uniform he hardly touched a drop of alcohol. As soon as he joined the CID was when his problem with alcohol started.

It was a work hard play hard attitude in The Met in 70s London. If you didn't join in with the culture then you were outcast and ostracized znd thought of as 'untrustworthy'...

My Dad now drinks half a litre of whiskey a night and has done for the last 30 years.. Obviously this has affected his physical appearance. Although he honestly believes he doesn't have a drink problem as he doesn't drink in the morning!!

 


Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Aug 18 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

FH makes some very good points here. My Dad joined the Met Police in 1973. His first 2 years in uniform he hardly touched a drop of alcohol. As soon as he joined the CID was when his problem with alcohol started.

It was a work hard play hard attitude in The Met in 70s London. If you didn't join in with the culture then you were outcast and ostracized znd thought of as 'untrustworthy'...

My Dad now drinks half a litre of whiskey a night and has done for the last 30 years.. Obviously this has affected his physical appearance. Although he honestly believes he doesn't have a drink problem as he doesn't drink in the morning!!

He sleeps through the morning instead?

 


COYP

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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 23 Aug 18 11.09pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He sleeps through the morning instead?

Unbelievably he is always up at 6am no matter how much he's had to drink... He's always been an early bird.

 


Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 24 Aug 18 9.25am Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Interesting article. Particularly the point where he said that he "needed a reason to abstain totally"

When I was a kid, I used to see adults drinking at events and wonder why some of them got so drunk when they had paid to go and see something. Wind the clock on a few years, an I now find that I go to events as an excuse to have a few beers with my friends.

I often, half-jokingly describe myself as a functioning alcoholic, but every now and then I go on a complete break. When I do this I find I almost have to drop of the radar, as pretty much every social event I go to involves booze. If I do go out, it generally takes a couple of weeks for me to stop asking for a beer in a place as my first instinct, or being annoyed that I cant have one. During these breaks, my bank balance, sleep, health, and work generally improves, but I do get board.

Having said that, I've made most of my friends though pubs, sports, concerts, etc. These have all revolved around alcohol. So it's brought great benefits too. If I didn't have booze, I may have been richer, thinner, and more successful - but I'd regret missing out on all the fun.

I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of relationship with beer. It just seems that there aren't many fun sociable activities that take place without it.

Article in the Guardian today about a large study which concluded that the only "healthy" amount of alcohol consumption was none. Suggested the benefits of a small amount were outweighed by the negatives.

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However the part that caught my eye came at the end from Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter (who is brilliant IMO) who said the data showed only a very low level of harm in moderate drinkers and suggested UK guidelines were very low risk.

“Given the pleasure presumably associated with moderate drinking, claiming there is no ‘safe’ level does not seem an argument for abstention,” he said. “There is no safe level of driving, but government do not recommend that people avoid driving. Come to think of it, there is no safe level of living, but nobody would recommend abstention.”


Sensible words. Everything in life involves a risk and reward balance and a full life involves just that, a balance.

 

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