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Mr Palaceman 22 Aug 18 2.52pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
well done on giving up. True not everyone, just half.. Half of all people who are regular smokers will die of a smoking relayed illness. In regards to alcohol, most drink way too much. I don't think people realise how it affects their health until its too late. It's a free country though.
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jeeagles 22 Aug 18 3.55pm | |
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Interesting article. Particularly the point where he said that he "needed a reason to abstain totally" When I was a kid, I used to see adults drinking at events and wonder why some of them got so drunk when they had paid to go and see something. Wind the clock on a few years, an I now find that I go to events as an excuse to have a few beers with my friends. I often, half-jokingly describe myself as a functioning alcoholic, but every now and then I go on a complete break. When I do this I find I almost have to drop of the radar, as pretty much every social event I go to involves booze. If I do go out, it generally takes a couple of weeks for me to stop asking for a beer in a place as my first instinct, or being annoyed that I cant have one. During these breaks, my bank balance, sleep, health, and work generally improves, but I do get board. Having said that, I've made most of my friends though pubs, sports, concerts, etc. These have all revolved around alcohol. So it's brought great benefits too. If I didn't have booze, I may have been richer, thinner, and more successful - but I'd regret missing out on all the fun. I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of relationship with beer. It just seems that there aren't many fun sociable activities that take place without it.
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Badger11 Beckenham 22 Aug 18 4.26pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Interesting article. Particularly the point where he said that he "needed a reason to abstain totally" When I was a kid, I used to see adults drinking at events and wonder why some of them got so drunk when they had paid to go and see something. Wind the clock on a few years, an I now find that I go to events as an excuse to have a few beers with my friends. I often, half-jokingly describe myself as a functioning alcoholic, but every now and then I go on a complete break. When I do this I find I almost have to drop of the radar, as pretty much every social event I go to involves booze. If I do go out, it generally takes a couple of weeks for me to stop asking for a beer in a place as my first instinct, or being annoyed that I cant have one. During these breaks, my bank balance, sleep, health, and work generally improves, but I do get board. Having said that, I've made most of my friends though pubs, sports, concerts, etc. These have all revolved around alcohol. So it's brought great benefits too. If I didn't have booze, I may have been richer, thinner, and more successful - but I'd regret missing out on all the fun. I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of relationship with beer. It just seems that there aren't many fun sociable activities that take place without it. Good post and I see a lot of myself in your comments.
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cryrst The garden of England 22 Aug 18 7.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman
True not everyone, just half.. Half of all people who are regular smokers will die of a smoking relayed illness. In regards to alcohol, most drink way too much. I don't think people realise how it affects their health until its too late. It's a free country though. Fair enough smoking is bad but where does that stat come from.
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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 22 Aug 18 8.37pm | |
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ive been in the grip of alcohol for a few hours tonight.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Aug 18 4.05am | |
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Alcohol plays a central part to many people's social time. We find humour in drinking stories, when in fact they could be viewed as quite sad. It can impact family time, functionality at work, without you even realising
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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 23 Aug 18 7.10am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Alcohol plays a central part to many people's social time. We find humour in drinking stories, when in fact they could be viewed as quite sad. It can impact family time, functionality at work, without you even realising
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Pussay Patrol 23 Aug 18 10.51am | |
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 23 Aug 18 1.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Alcohol plays a central part to many people's social time. We find humour in drinking stories, when in fact they could be viewed as quite sad. It can impact family time, functionality at work, without you even realising
FH makes some very good points here. My Dad joined the Met Police in 1973. His first 2 years in uniform he hardly touched a drop of alcohol. As soon as he joined the CID was when his problem with alcohol started. It was a work hard play hard attitude in The Met in 70s London. If you didn't join in with the culture then you were outcast and ostracized znd thought of as 'untrustworthy'... My Dad now drinks half a litre of whiskey a night and has done for the last 30 years.. Obviously this has affected his physical appearance. Although he honestly believes he doesn't have a drink problem as he doesn't drink in the morning!!
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Aug 18 1.49pm | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
FH makes some very good points here. My Dad joined the Met Police in 1973. His first 2 years in uniform he hardly touched a drop of alcohol. As soon as he joined the CID was when his problem with alcohol started. It was a work hard play hard attitude in The Met in 70s London. If you didn't join in with the culture then you were outcast and ostracized znd thought of as 'untrustworthy'... My Dad now drinks half a litre of whiskey a night and has done for the last 30 years.. Obviously this has affected his physical appearance. Although he honestly believes he doesn't have a drink problem as he doesn't drink in the morning!! He sleeps through the morning instead?
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 23 Aug 18 11.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
He sleeps through the morning instead? Unbelievably he is always up at 6am no matter how much he's had to drink... He's always been an early bird.
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 Aug 18 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Interesting article. Particularly the point where he said that he "needed a reason to abstain totally" When I was a kid, I used to see adults drinking at events and wonder why some of them got so drunk when they had paid to go and see something. Wind the clock on a few years, an I now find that I go to events as an excuse to have a few beers with my friends. I often, half-jokingly describe myself as a functioning alcoholic, but every now and then I go on a complete break. When I do this I find I almost have to drop of the radar, as pretty much every social event I go to involves booze. If I do go out, it generally takes a couple of weeks for me to stop asking for a beer in a place as my first instinct, or being annoyed that I cant have one. During these breaks, my bank balance, sleep, health, and work generally improves, but I do get board. Having said that, I've made most of my friends though pubs, sports, concerts, etc. These have all revolved around alcohol. So it's brought great benefits too. If I didn't have booze, I may have been richer, thinner, and more successful - but I'd regret missing out on all the fun. I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of relationship with beer. It just seems that there aren't many fun sociable activities that take place without it. Article in the Guardian today about a large study which concluded that the only "healthy" amount of alcohol consumption was none. Suggested the benefits of a small amount were outweighed by the negatives. However the part that caught my eye came at the end from Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter (who is brilliant IMO) who said the data showed only a very low level of harm in moderate drinkers and suggested UK guidelines were very low risk. “Given the pleasure presumably associated with moderate drinking, claiming there is no ‘safe’ level does not seem an argument for abstention,” he said. “There is no safe level of driving, but government do not recommend that people avoid driving. Come to think of it, there is no safe level of living, but nobody would recommend abstention.”
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