True but any fine hurts.
Sometimes it's for going in bus lanes or yellow box junctions and you don't know till it drops through the door.
I reckon it's for the TFL Xmas party.
And cycle lanes of course.

it all helps thanks

I was parked in a visitors spot when the office was closed, therefore impossible for me to get permission to park. My bad that I didn't spot the notices.

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Hey, that's my wife's address!

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

This.
As told to me by a Black cab driver (friend) earlier.

Buy Litecoin.

These people are exactly the kind of disgusting scum that make Britain s***e. I don't know anywhere else where a private company thinks it can demand £100 from you for overstaying in a car park by a minute, and there are plenty of cases of people visiting the same car park twice and being treated as if they had been there the whole time between the two visits.

Until lately, the position in England was that their letters were not "fines" or "tickets" but speculative invoices, i.e. demands for money with menaces that you only had to pay if they bullied you enough. Unfortunately the pathetic and feeble Westminster Government has acquiesced into giving these scum not only the right to find out whose car it was but also to force the registered keeper to disclose who was driving it (the ironically-named "Protection of Freedoms Act"
). In addition they have persuaded a court somewhere to agree that £85 is a "reasonable pre-estimate of cost" for overstaying a couple of minutes in an empty car park. Finally they have introduced their own "appeals process" which is supposed to look nice and fair and friendly but which actually serves to divert argument about what they should and shouldn't get away with away from the courts and into an appeals panel which is paid for and therefore controlled by their own industry members. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

Until the cowards that make our laws had been brow-beaten into allowing these scum their licence to print free money, the advice was to simply ignore anything they sent you and never to acknowledge even your existence - there was nothing they could do; their speculative invoices weren't worth the paper they were written on, you weren't obliged to tell them anything and their entitlement to claim costs for trivial parking infringements was restricted to their actual costs, i.e. nothing.

Sadly, in the light of our lawmakers prioritising the bankrolling of party contributors over the rights of ordinary citizens, the only thing you can now do is to write to the manager of whatever shop you were visiting (or to his head office) pointing out that you have been treated in the most disgusting fashion when visiting his shop and will for this reason not only never be doing so again but will also publicise your experience widely. Use twitter and facebook etc. accordingly. In other words, play the one commercial interest (the legitimate one) off against the other (the scum).

If the speculative invoice relates to parking in Scotland then there is as far as I know no case law in a Scottish court that makes it enforceable so just bin the f***ing thing.

Sorry but this is one of the things about the way this country is run that just typifies the machinery that takes money away from people who have earned it with hard work and gives it to people who do nothing useful except sit on their fat arses in their country dachas counting it. It makes me puke.

The subject is ventilated frequently on Pistonheads so you may wish to visit there.

The other thing you can do of course is to make clear to your MP that, whilst you have no problem with paying say an extra fiver if you overstay your parking rules, having our high streets and town centres taken over by these gangsters will serve only to turn them into concrete deserts.

Edited by chateauferret (01 Jul 2018 10.51pm)

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thanks both. I suspect I'll have to pay the £50.

I'll check out pistonheads Ferret

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