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 thai-eagle  chiang mai 02 Jun 18 7.11am |
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Originally posted by Palace 1979
Agreed. Roy is the right man to bring him through. I think he will play a few cup games next season and if we get a few injuries he may get a few league games. I think he needs another year or so in the gym as he is a little on the small side and will need to bulk up a little. Why this obsession with players having to bulk up? Messi, Neymar, Couthino and Mahrez are all smal and "tiny"". But they are still doin' their business..so why can't any of our youngsters do the same?
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Goldfiinger  Just down the road 02 Jun 18 8.03am |
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Would love it so much if we managed to keep Cabaye for another season whilst bringing Kirby in to the 1st team. It’s not like he’s been with the club since being a kid but still. Would love to see him break through. Anyone know if anyone else is close ?
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| Loz83 Crawley 02 Jun 18 9.54am |
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Originally posted by thai-eagle
Why this obsession with players having to bulk up? Messi, Neymar, Couthino and Mahrez are all smal and "tiny"". But they are still doin' their business..so why can't any of our youngsters do the same? That’s true, and you can build strength without having ‘bulk’.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 02 Jun 18 1.43pm |
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Messi’s got serious core strength. I think he enjoys surfing which is amazing for your core strength.
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| Mstrobez 02 Jun 18 4.17pm |
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Originally posted by thai-eagle
Why this obsession with players having to bulk up? Messi, Neymar, Couthino and Mahrez are all smal and "tiny"". But they are still doin' their business..so why can't any of our youngsters do the same? Also what you tend to see is players who bulk up losing the agility that made them so good in the first place. I think Wilfs years of stalled development was over an obsession of bulking up and becoming an “out and out” wide right winger instead of letting him utilise his natural ability. He’s fantastic now but I still think he was a better dribbler as a kid, so skinny and would just wriggle through challenges in his first spell with us.
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coulsdoneagle  London 02 Jun 18 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Also what you tend to see is players who bulk up losing the agility that made them so good in the first place. I think Wilfs years of stalled development was over an obsession of bulking up and becoming an “out and out” wide right winger instead of letting him utilise his natural ability. He’s fantastic now but I still think he was a better dribbler as a kid, so skinny and would just wriggle through challenges in his first spell with us. No way. When Wilf bulked yo he went to the next level. He is so hard to shake off the ball now and actually uses his strength to his advantage as a runner on the ball. Building up your core strength is a good thing unless you go like Akinfenwa and overdo it.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 02 Jun 18 8.43pm |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
No way. When Wilf bulked yo he went to the next level. He is so hard to shake off the ball now and actually uses his strength to his advantage as a runner on the ball. Building up your core strength is a good thing unless you go like Akinfenwa and overdo it. His is the opposite to core strength. He’s just bulky.
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| Mstrobez 02 Jun 18 9.28pm |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
No way. When Wilf bulked yo he went to the next level. He is so hard to shake off the ball now and actually uses his strength to his advantage as a runner on the ball. Building up your core strength is a good thing unless you go like Akinfenwa and overdo it. It depends in what context you look at it. And also the style of team you’re playing in. I think the bulking up made him a more direct and powerful player but put less emphasis on his ball control, which when he first played for us at times was just incredible. He’s obviously still amazing with the ball at his feet because that’s natural ability that can’t be taught, but he was cleaner, quicker & more agile with it in his skinnier & younger days, in my opinion. He used to be what I’d call “slippery”, where he’d literally just wriggle past challenges and was often untouchable. I think he was moulded into more of a Bolasie type player (not saying Yala is anywhere near his level), but much more emphasis was placed on his power. And using his body to ride challenges, as opposed to his natural agility. Especially the days Pardew & Holloway etc. wanted his sole focus to be taking players to the byline and whipping balls in. Which is more about directness, pace and power, than it is when coming inside and getting in behind which is what I’ve always thought he was best at, and is what he’s been given the freedom to do all season. Edited by Mstrobez (02 Jun 2018 9.35pm)
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| Palace 1979 Surrey 02 Jun 18 9.28pm |
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I used the wrong term when saying bulk up. Not as in get much heavier/stockier, just needs more core strength from what I have seen. Agree totally with comments about Zaha, he has got better and better since becoming physically stronger, and I see Kirby in the same type of mould. I would imagine Roy has him in mind and would be very surprised if he has not already got him doing extra work, as he really could be the next gem to come through.
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| Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 02 Jun 18 11.34pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Messi’s got serious core strength. I think he enjoys surfing which is amazing for your core strength. I weigh 18st and most would class me as a fat b****** yet I still surf
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| 01CPFC central coast NSW (The Mariners Mi... 03 Jun 18 2.33am |
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle
I weigh 18st and most would class me as a fat b****** yet I still surf Yep Surfing on the Thames, All the best,i will keep watching out for you! COYP
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| Tadleyeagle Reading 03 Jun 18 7.35am |
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Just met him in lanzarote, a nice guy and seems determined to break into the first team next season.
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