I'm sure the majority have paid in for many many years but due to inflation (1300% since the 70's) they've not put anywhere near enough to cover their costs in later life though.
It's not their fault as they've 'done as they were told', the blame lies with every single govt for decades now.

This problem will never go away.

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Having spent the majority of April last year in hospital visiting the father-in-law (sadly passed) then i'd say 'foreigners' are certainly getting their monies worth regarding health treatment. The place was packed with all sorts of languages, English being around 20% from what i remember.
Having spent many days in the past 2wks visiting aunty Betty (broken hip and now back home) i'd say nothing's changed.
From schooling, infrastructure and medical needs, migration as a whole has cost us dearly. Whatever they may have paid in doesn't come close to covering the real costs.

Edited by .TUX. (24 May 2018 9.37am)

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The government is of the people. Their bungling benefited their own generation at the expense of their children and grandchildren. They aren't some sort of aliens who aren't themselves part of society. If they damage the country while benefiting themselves and their peers (who voted for them) it seems right that once this becomes apparent they should be responsible for repairing the damage.

The Tories won't touch them though as they are their base. With the Tories in power the workers will not get a fair crack of the whip and will continue to see their wealth diminish relative to their parents and grandparents, who use age as an excuse to avoid any rightful liabilities.

We're having to work now to plug the gaps in pension funds which we don't benefit from! They are all closed. We now have to work for our own pensions as well. So we're paying double to receive half.

You and you.........I'm gonna milk it as much as I can,it's lovely being a selfish retired old fart.

Really? All evidence?

This is simply untrue. I find that like your post on 'free speech' yesterday it's not the true picture.

I would be interested in where you get this evidence for all immigrants.

To get a net benefit you have to select only immigrants from a select number of countries, for example the EU or take from a set number of years and avoid the reality of older immigrants.

When you stop cheery picking your evidence base the reality is that immigration to the UK costs the UK tax payer more than it brings in: Fact. Even when you account for the most positive spin.

Immigrants get old too and it's a ponzi scheme which is impossible to sustain and anyone with more common sense than ideology can see that.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2018 10.52am)

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But looking at your links Stirling, I don't know if any of them really prove that immigration is a huge burden on the taxpayer (except the Mail, but you can't really expect much balance in an article by them in the lead up to the referendum).

Migrant Watch simply disputes some of the assumptions of a previous study without providing any counter research, while the BBC article just makes the point that non EEA migrants over a long period take more in welfare and public service provision because they have lived here for longer and have therefore grown old. But they have also - the majority of them - worked in britain, paid taxes like the rest of us and, you would imagine, many will have come from former colonies where their families' labour had contributed to British wealth at a minimal expenditure for generations?

Even as someone who was at best ambivalent about Brexit, you can clearly see the economic effects of a downturn in net migration. The endless supply of cheap service labour is drying up, which is surely a major factor in so many high street stores closing their doors. Walk down the road wherever you are and look how many signs are in the windows asking for people to work in Costa, KFC, Pret etc. That could be the trigger for the next recession very easily in the next couple of years, as productivity continues to fall off a cliff.

Edited by serial thriller (24 May 2018 11.26am)

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