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 steven_t92  Orpington 14 May 18 1.45pm |
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Half of the players you've listed all failed at PL clubs (Vydra, Hernandez etc.) so no thanks.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 14 May 18 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by steven_t92
Half of the players you've listed all failed at PL clubs (Vydra, Hernandez etc.) so no thanks. That's the funniest thing; the list is crap!
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| Midlands Eagle 14 May 18 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
That's the funniest thing; the list is crap! Where's your list then so that we can see what an excellent list looks like
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black eagle.  south croydon. 14 May 18 3.00pm |
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Yes Shikiri
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| steven_t92 Orpington 14 May 18 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Where's your list then so that we can see what an excellent list looks like Shakiri, Evans, Foster, Butland, Rodriquez, Philips, Ayew, Fabianski and Mawson all now officially championship players and all better than that list.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 14 May 18 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Where's your list then so that we can see what an excellent list looks like
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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| mattteo 14 May 18 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by steven_t92
Half of the players you've listed all failed at PL clubs (Vydra, Hernandez etc.) so no thanks. Yeah, because you have no clue about football and you don't take into consideration AGE. If you did, you'd know that there's no such thing as "failing" if they were just 19 or 20 or 21. They were just developing. Often, this means taking the route of The Championship to get playing time. By now, all the players who you cliam have failed at PL clubs are pretty developed (some are still improving, yes, but doesn't mean they're not good)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 14 May 18 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Yeah, because you have no clue about football and you don't take into consideration AGE. If you did, you'd know that there's no such thing as "failing" if they were just 19 or 20 or 21. They were just developing. Often, this means taking the route of The Championship to get playing time. By now, all the players who you cliam have failed at PL clubs are pretty developed (some are still improving, yes, but doesn't mean they're not good) The two players mentioned (Hernandez and Vydra) were I think 23 and 24 the last time they played in the PL. When you consider that Zaha was 24 at the start of this season, I'm not sure age is much of an excuse...
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| mattteo 14 May 18 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The two players mentioned (Hernandez and Vydra) were I think 23 and 24 the last time they played in the PL. When you consider that Zaha was 24 at the start of this season, I'm not sure age is much of an excuse... You had to start this....couldn't leave it alone, could you? Vydra didn't play for Watford at 23. He has been loaned to the Championship since 21. But anyway, Vydra's record in the Premier League is 3 goals and 4 assists in 650 minutes!!!!! Abel Hernandez did not play bad in the PL. It's just that he played for a sucky team which was relegated. He has 7 goals and 4 assists in 2700 minutes in the PL and 12 goals (excluding penalties) and 6 assists a the top tier of Italian football in 4000 minutes. Also 10 goals and 4 assists in 900 minutes for the Uruguay national team. A total of 43 in 7600 minutes. All until the age of 26 (last year, when they went down). That's not bad for a 26 yo. Do you want him to be Messi??? I'm talking about players who are currently better than what Palace has, not Champions League winners. And in my opinion Abel Hernandez is more mobile, more agile and an overall better striker than Benteke. Edited by mattteo (14 May 2018 6.17pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 14 May 18 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
You had to start this....couldn't leave it alone, could you? Vydra didn't play for Watford at 23. He has been loaned to the Championship since 21. But anyway, Vydra's record in the Premier League is 3 goals and 4 assists in 650 minutes!!!!! Abel Hernandez did not play bad in the PL. It's just that he played for a sucky team which was relegated. He has 7 goals and 4 assists in 2700 minutes in the PL and 12 goals (excluding penalties) and 6 assists a the top tier of Italian football in 4000 minutes. Also 10 goals and 4 assists in 900 minutes for the Uruguay national team. A total of 43 in 7600 minutes. All until the age of 26 (last year, when they went down). That's not bad for a 26 yo. Do you want him to be Messi??? I'm talking about players who are currently better than what Palace has, not Champions League winners. And in my opinion Abel Hernandez is more mobile, more agile and an overall better striker than Benteke. Edited by mattteo (14 May 2018 6.17pm) Start what? Why do you always react so personally when someone challenges your views on a forum? If I was as knowledgeable on a topic as you claim to be, I certainly wouldn't care what a few simple football fans thought... You said the posted didn't have a clue about football, citing the 'fact' that Vydra and Hernandez were 19-21 when they were playing in the Prem - I was just pointing out that wasn't true. No surprise you've veered wildly off tangent and started with the goals to minutes ratios again, which are the best stat in football, unless of course they don't support your opinion, in which case they should be ignored.
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| mattteo 14 May 18 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Start what? Why do you always react so personally when someone challenges your views on a forum? I was just making a joke. Sorry it wasn't very obvious.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 May 18 7.07pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
You had to start this....couldn't leave it alone, could you? Vydra didn't play for Watford at 23. He has been loaned to the Championship since 21. But anyway, Vydra's record in the Premier League is 3 goals and 4 assists in 650 minutes!!!!! Abel Hernandez did not play bad in the PL. It's just that he played for a sucky team which was relegated. He has 7 goals and 4 assists in 2700 minutes in the PL and 12 goals (excluding penalties) and 6 assists a the top tier of Italian football in 4000 minutes. Also 10 goals and 4 assists in 900 minutes for the Uruguay national team. A total of 43 in 7600 minutes. All until the age of 26 (last year, when they went down). That's not bad for a 26 yo. Do you want him to be Messi??? I'm talking about players who are currently better than what Palace has, not Champions League winners. And in my opinion Abel Hernandez is more mobile, more agile and an overall better striker than Benteke. Edited by mattteo (14 May 2018 6.17pm) Steve Bruce said a couple of years ago that the player saves his best for when the sun is shining ! Had his injury problems this season, only making 10 apps but he did score 8 goals ! Last season he only got 5 goals in about 30 apps but he was playing in a stuggling PL team. Can go through games unnoticed and then pops up with a goal.
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