Just reminded me that a bloke got arrested for wearing an offensive t shirt in a pub a couple of years back. Something about Hillsborough IIRC.

Optimistic as ever

'I'm not disagreeing with the fact that free speech should be allowed, but....'

I'm sorry mate, but no one makes you play his video on YouTube. He put a disclaimer on the video saying it was a joke....I throw my hands up at so called 'freedom of speech' defenders today....the 'but' mob.

As for violence and smacking him.....This was a bad taste joke for fcuk's sake. Whoever wants to be a big man and smack others for bad taste jokes then get down the pub and see how long you last. I'll be supporting the guys who hit back even if I don't like their jokes.

I totally disagree with you that this should be the reason people think twice. This is 1984 sh1t and a disgrace to a liberal democracy and that last paragraph proves to me that you are apart of that problem.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 8.44pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You seem to think that I care about what this guy has done, as I have said before, I am not offended.
I was merely commenting on why I thought others would be offended, and suggested that sometimes people bring this upon themselves because they haven't really thought their actions through. Or maybe they have, and just don't give a f^^k about others.
People have to realise that there are sometimes consequences to their actions, and hiding behind freedom of speech isn't always an all encompassing shield.
As for the violence thing, I think you have misread my comment. I nowhere said I would smack someone, I just put out a theoretical scenario of what could happen 'down the pub'.

I may not conform to your beliefs, but I have an understanding of what is right and wrong, and I feel that this guy's comments are wrong, and he has, probably too harshly, been pulled on it.

This isn't a freedom of expression moment though is it, he wasn't putting forward a reasoned and well nuanced arguement ,there are no important truths or analysis being hidden by draconian government hell bent on supressing the righteous truth , what he has done is teach a dog to make nazi salutes on command.

In the summing up Sheriff O'Carroll said: "He said he chose 'gas the jews' as it was the most offensive phrase associated with the Nazi's that he could think of. It was the centrepiece of the joke. He said it was so extreme that it added to the comedy."

He was found guilt of by "means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character".

He understood it was offensive he knew it was public at the very least to paraphrase a football saying 'he has made the Judge have to make a decision on that'.

One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

I don't think anyone is saying that he is some sort of hero but it absolutely is a free speech issue: offensive jokes can now be a criminal offence. On this basis many popular comedians should be up for long sentences.

This has been going through the courts for 2 years and must have cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands in legal fees. It's ridiculous. The criminal justice systems was not set up for punishing offensive jokes.

Along similar lines, I'd be interesred to hear why the mods pulled my post today about Tottenham being Jewish, in the thread about Spurs making a derisory £40 millon bid for Zaha.

It was a joke ffs. That's all. The Jewish are known for being careful with their money.

If some poor little soul was offended by that then they need to either get a life or counselling.