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Portuguese Porto 14 Mar 18 9.50am | |
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I deeply pay my respects to someone that all his life showed us the difference between existence and essence... His contribution will last for mankind!
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 14 Mar 18 10.20am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Typical Corbynite behaviour bringing party politics into the debating arena just like his reprehensible ramblings in relation to the incident in Salisbury.This is a time to praise the great Stephen Hawking NOT to use this as an opportunity for Anti-Tory rhetoric Thoughts go out to the family and friends of a great man. Edited by Willo (14 Mar 2018 9.52am) Given I've met him on a number of occasions and heard him speak and read a lot of what he has written about the NHS, and the fact that he was a named party in a legal suit (still ongoing) against Jeremy Hunt for his actions in stealth privatisation of the NHS, I would wager a considerable amount that he would not want his death to be used as an excuse to repress his sentiments on the NHS and the governments mishandling of it. The fact that you choose to ignore the issues and deride someone for bring them up is more of an insult to Hawking than talking about them and lamenting his loss for those reasons. Your reaction reminds me of Republicans in the US who say "now is not the time to talk about gun control". Without Hawking here to carry on his campaign it's vitally important for anyone who cares about it to keep his words in people's minds and carry on with him campaign.
Edited by CambridgeEagle (14 Mar 2018 10.35am)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Mar 18 10.34am | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Given I've met him on a number of occasions and heard him speak and read a lot of what he has written about the NHS, and the fact that he was a named party in a legal suit (still ongoing) against Jeremy Hunt for his actions in stealth privatisation of the NHS, I would wager a considerable amount that he would not want his death to be used as an excuse to repress his sentiments on the NHS and the governments mishandling of it. The fact that you choose to ignore the issues and deride someone for bring them up is more of an insult to Hawking than talking about them and lamenting his loss for those reasons. Clearly shamefully you wish to turn this into a party-political broadcast on behalf of the dastardly Labour Party just like your beloved Marxist leader whose ramblings yesterday were a total and utter disgrace. This thread is about the estamable Stephen Hawking but alas you wish to divert attention away from the great man by your disgraceful political grandstanding. Your political ramblings don't deserve the 'Oxygen' of publicity so for this reason I won't dignify them with any further responses.
Edited by Willo (14 Mar 2018 10.35am)
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Beastie 14 Mar 18 10.38am | |
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I find these posts totally inappropriate and you people are ruining this thread
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Beastie 14 Mar 18 10.39am | |
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Originally posted by Beastie
I find these posts totally inappropriate and you people are ruining this thread Now, this is better. Attachment: Stephen Hawking.png (554.31Kb)
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 14 Mar 18 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Clearly shamefully you wish to turn this into a party-political broadcast on behalf of the dastardly Labour Party just like your beloved Marxist leader whose ramblings yesterday were a total and utter disgrace. This thread is about the estamable Stephen Hawking but alas you wish to divert attention away from the great man by your disgraceful political grandstanding. Your political ramblings don't deserve the 'Oxygen' of publicity so for this reason I won't dignify them with any further responses.
Edited by Willo (14 Mar 2018 10.35am)
I should inform you that Hawking is a Labour voter. Indeed in 2017 he said; “I’m voting Labour because another five years of Conservative government would be a disaster for the NHS, the police and other public services". I quite agree with him and am happy to share his views with you all while celebrating his achievements. His choice of Act I of Die Walkure on Desert Island Discs is something else of which I approve!
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serial thriller The Promised Land 14 Mar 18 10.49am | |
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People love remembering half a person in death, rather than understanding the full person as a complex individual with multiple interests and passions. CE is pretty much the only person on this thread to lament the man for a concrete action he made in his lifetime. Most people probably don't even know what a singularity is, let alone what Hawking added to the discussion. RIP to an inspiration.
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Stirlingsays 14 Mar 18 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
People love remembering half a person in death, rather than understanding the full person as a complex individual with multiple interests and passions. CE is pretty much the only person on this thread to lament the man for a concrete action he made in his lifetime. Most people probably don't even know what a singularity is, let alone what Hawking added to the discussion. RIP to an inspiration. CE is out of order and you just defend him because he's apart of your political tribe. I'm sure that if some famous celebrity who also had voted Tory had died that those scoring political points would also be criticised....... and rightly so. This should have just been a remembrance thread instead of having politics introduced into it. It's not as though there aren't plenty of threads for that.
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Mr Palaceman 14 Mar 18 11.15am | |
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Very sad news. His immense contribution to science and humanity in general can not be understated. A truly remarkable person and a genuine inspiration to all. Very sad news... RIP Mr Hawking..
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 14 Mar 18 12.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
CE is out of order and you just defend him because he's apart of your political tribe. I'm sure that if some famous celebrity who also had voted Tory had died that those scoring political points would also be criticised....... and rightly so. This should have just been a remembrance thread instead of having politics introduced into it. It's not as though there aren't plenty of threads for that.
Lamenting his loss in the campaign for protection of the NHS and his outspoken defence of it is hardly outrageous. Over the past year this had been one of Hawking's principal endeavours, so to pretend it wasn't simply because it involves politics is reprehensible. It's certainly not "scoring points". Given this thread is about Hawking and his life's work it seems to me to be a perfect place to discuss something he was passionate enough about to give public lectures on, write a number of newspaper articles about, argue publicly with Jeremy Hunt over and add his name to a list of plaintiffs on a court case concerning this issue.
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Mar 18 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Having met him a number of times this is a sad day personally. He was a great lover of music and made the effort to often go to performances (big fan of West Side Story I heard him say). The biggest loss in the current climate is his advocacy on behalf of the NHS and his fight against the systematic destruction of it by Jeremy Hunt and Andrew Lansley before him. To have a person of his intellect, profile and experience speaking out on behalf of patients, doctors and the public was a boon in the fight to save the NHS. It's a sad day for all of us that he will not be around to carry on that battle. Blimey. Are you Gussett in disguise? We have lost a great man who humbles us all.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 14 Mar 18 12.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
CE is out of order and you just defend him because he's apart of your political tribe. I'm sure that if some famous celebrity who also had voted Tory had died that those scoring political points would also be criticised....... and rightly so. This should have just been a remembrance thread instead of having politics introduced into it. It's not as though there aren't plenty of threads for that. I dunno. One of my heroes is Morrissey, even though I fully acknowledge he has acquired some atrocious political views since sodding off to LA. I will be almost relieved when he does crock it and stops ruining my idolisation of him. Hawking political views are inseparable from the man himself, because they come from a personal experience. He says himself he would have died decades ago without the NHS, and the fact that he tried to return the favour by raising his voice should, IMO, be part of what is being celebrated today about his life.
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