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Penge Eagle Beckenham 08 Mar 18 9.21pm | |
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Saw this.. Attachment: international womens day.jpg (70.37Kb)
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Stuk Top half 08 Mar 18 9.39pm | |
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It's as relevant or irrelevant as international burger day, in that it only affects those with a vested interest in it. Other than being told (repeatedly I'll admit) that it was supposedly, and arbitrarily, given that title, did it make a difference to your day?
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DanH SW2 08 Mar 18 9.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Get your own line! If you had actually read the post you'd see that I'm not bothered.....I'm pointing out the hypocrisy and feminist bias of our mainstream media. I just like calling you out whinging about things when you’re a big fan of the snowflake line yourself Yeah there’s a load of press coverage about it and it’s a ‘hot topic’ at the moment. That Jordan Peterson interview you put on here was great, really interesting and pretty much completely true, but his main argument was that women are less agreeable then men - agreed in general. I see this as the ‘marketplace correction’ in that. Women are fighting their corner harder and are becoming less agreeable and equality is getting closer because of that.
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PALACE FOR EVER London 08 Mar 18 9.43pm | |
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There is an International Men's day which is on November 19th.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 08 Mar 18 9.49pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
That Jordan Peterson interview you put on here was great, really interesting and pretty much completely true, but his main argument was that women are less agreeable then men - agreed in general. I put that Jordan Peterson video up and I'd recommend listening to more of his work as he's a smart guy. He spoke recently about women in the workplace and said we just haven't figured out the best way of both sexes working together as it's still a new thing. How do we de-sexualise the workplace to stop harassment? Maybe women not wear make-up or high heels? Maybe have men and women wear uniforms? He doesn't have all the answers but raises some interesting questions about the issue. Only by having awkward conversations of opposite views can we find solutions... Creating a victim narrative – the Marxist oppressors v the oppressed – doesn't actually help anyone. Edited by Penge Eagle (08 Mar 2018 9.56pm)
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DanH SW2 08 Mar 18 10.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I put that Jordan Peterson video up and I'd recommend listening to more of his work as he's a smart guy. He spoke recently about women in the workplace and said we just haven't figured out the best way of both sexes working together as it's still a new thing. How do we de-sexualise the workplace to stop harassment? Maybe women not wear make-up or high heels? Maybe have men and women wear uniforms? He doesn't have all the answers but raises some interesting questions about the issue. Only by having awkward conversations of opposite views can we find solutions... Edited by Penge Eagle (08 Mar 2018 9.50pm) Apologies - it was you. Realised I got it the wrong way round as well - men are less agreeable than women. I genuinely do believe that it’s things like IWD that might make a bloke think twice about being inappropriate. Just because a woman wears make up and heels why is that automatically sexualising herself? It’s making yourself feel confident and your best self - just as us blokes putting on a decent suit, shining your shoes and having a shave. If blokes in general are so highly sexualised they can’t be trusted to control themselves in a professional environment it doesn’t really say much about us a sex does it?
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becky over the moon 08 Mar 18 10.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I put that Jordan Peterson video up and I'd recommend listening to more of his work as he's a smart guy. He spoke recently about women in the workplace and said we just haven't figured out the best way of both sexes working together as it's still a new thing. How do we de-sexualise the workplace to stop harassment? Maybe women not wear make-up or high heels? Maybe have men and women wear uniforms? He doesn't have all the answers but raises some interesting questions about the issue. Only by having awkward conversations of opposite views can we find solutions... Creating a victim narrative – the Marxist oppressors v the oppressed – doesn't actually help anyone. Edited by Penge Eagle (08 Mar 2018 9.56pm) It's hardly a 'new' thing - my mother worked in the factory at Muirheads back in the 50's (she was asked to go back part time and use the skills she learned doing war work for a major contract they had won) - it was a mixed workshop and the women were all treated with respect, certainly no sexual harassment, it simply would not have been permitted. But, maybe that was just old fashioned ideas of behaviour and courtesy. For my whole working life (46 years), I worked in male dominated sectors: accountancy, banking and finance. Certainly, in the late 70's and 80's there was occasional harassment, some of it quite heavy, but the straightforward threat that if they ever did whatever it was again, I would cheerfully cut off their balls and stick them down their throat (or in the case of someone with a bit more power and leverage that my father and 3 (non-existant) brothers would be round to do the same) usually did the trick. That or a slap and the instruction never to touch me again. Mind you, I would never have considered a hand on an arm as 'harassment', nor half the stuff they all cry over these days. As for International Woman's Day........ oh perleeeeesee! If you want equality, behave in an equal manner; if you want respect, earn it! Vive la difference! Grumpy Old Woman
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serial thriller The Promised Land 08 Mar 18 10.51pm | |
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Trying to find equivalence with male experience isn't completely unfair, but just look at the recent revelations in film, politics and the civil service. An unbelievable level of intimidation and sexual harassment overwhelmingly -though not exclusively - towards women. There is no male equivalence there. Sexual abuse is one of the most psychologically damaging things that can happen to a person, and the single reason why women have such disproportionate brunt of it is because of an epidemic of violent chauvinistic misuse of power. Women can now be prime ministers, engineers or pro footballers, and the Feminist movement deserves so much praise for making those grounds. But the idea that gender power imbalances don't still need challenging is bollox
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Mar 18 11.28pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Trying to find equivalence with male experience isn't completely unfair, but just look at the recent revelations in film, politics and the civil service. An unbelievable level of intimidation and sexual harassment overwhelmingly -though not exclusively - towards women. There is no male equivalence there. Sexual abuse is one of the most psychologically damaging things that can happen to a person, and the single reason why women have such disproportionate brunt of it is because of an epidemic of violent chauvinistic misuse of power. Women can now be prime ministers, engineers or pro footballers, and the Feminist movement deserves so much praise for making those grounds. But the idea that gender power imbalances don't still need challenging is ovaries
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Mar 18 12.10am | |
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Originally posted by joe_cpfc
Exactly. I used to quite like women, I f***ing hate them now. Put it a note on all your texts and social media. They'll love it.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Mar 18 12.19am | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Saw this.. As Stirling says, 'Could of' performed in education as well as his female peers or stood a 33% better chance of getting to university if to begin with he knew it's 'could've or could have.' It has gone too far but most women don't pay attention to this sh1t and are getting on with their own lives.
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EagleEssex Essex 09 Mar 18 1.14am | |
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This was a communist/socialist idea that originated in Soviet Russia. They also have a "men's day" aka " defenders of the fatherland day" that was celebrated a few weeks ago. I work with some Russians and shared a vodka or two with them. Both days should be taken fairly lightly, and enjoyed.
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