No I don't please enlighten me - I'll check out the quotation of Chateauferret's - and btw this ain't some eccentric point of view bcos I'm outnumbered by the people stung into a reply, lots of people find formally religious people a bit dodgy - this is probably coming from my current experience with a line manager who is a skin crawling creep but thinks he's a nice bloke, he doesn't like me and suspects I have criminal tendencies because I have unpredictable qualities such as a sense of humour - I think a spotted a cross in his chain once - he could be one of those straight out of Matthew Chapter 7.

Bit of sf.

Would this thread be allowed if the title was Muslims and the OP started the thread saying that he "had never met a nice Muslim"..

No - didn't think so..

I'm not being political here, but there used to be a Spitting Image song "I've never met a nice South African' and I think this apllies better to Christians. People often express their distaste at an apparent Muslim takeover - forget all the politics, but all the shop owners, traders and professionals I've met from Muslim countries have never inflicted any grief on me personally, perhaps because I haven't got close enough, but nearly all the Christians I have met have been either weirdos or nasty bits of work who act nice and do good deeds so they can look down their nose upon and hate genuinely nice people. It's probably 'believers' who are the problem - I'm agnostic not atheist btw and I respect the morality that religion tries to spread, and I have met some lovely, quiet Christians - most of us are non-committal these days or just pay lip-service to some vague belief - but would you want a Christian as your boss or drinking partner? Forget the politics of it all, just your genuine experience, most people if you say you're a Christian they treat you like a Jetihovah's Witness, and with good reason, my statistical and personal experience of Christians tells me to avoid. Anyone agree or not?