Being raised by one parent (ie without a father) is not the same thing, so I think that's a difficult conclusion to draw.

Children are born into all sorts of f***ed up families, so I think it's very difficult for society to claim a particularly strict moral code when it comes to this sort of thing - it's easy to dismiss it as 'touchy feely' but there are countless kids born every day who will be considerably worst off than those raised by homosexual couples, you have to question why society would object to one, and not the rest.

Out of interest, is there any evidence to support your claim, in terms of kids raised by same sex couples? I can't pretend I've seen a lot of studies on it.

I'm pretty surprised by the 20 year age gap. Apparently they announced they were dating 5 years ago so they would have been 18 and 38. It's reminiscent of Chris Evans and Billie Piper. It all sounds a bit creepy and it seems like there's a few father figure issues.

What ever the sexuallity, I'm sure a 23 year old and 43 year old couple trying to adopt would raise a few eyebrows. I'm not sure on what the rules are but at 23 I was far too irresponsible to be able to raise a kid, and when I hit 43 I doubt I'd be able to have the energy.

Looks as though they could have avoided it by throwing money at a surrogate. I'm not sure I'd like it if I was a kid knowing my mum only had me because my dads paid for her either.

I think there are some justifiable concerns here, but they'll get drowned out as any opposition would be called homophobic.

Ultimately, I hope it works out and it's none of my business.

I think that's wrong. Two males does not equal one female.

Hence, this...in my view.... is a form of single parent family.

A single parent family is not an ideal situation to allow for adoption....what is frankly a practical part adoption here.

I agree with you about the disfunctionality of significant amounts of society.

However, this is socially supporting the creation of families outside of previously accepted norms that are present pretty much everywhere else outside of selected western nations.

This is endorsing the idea of a hamstrung situation at the start and calling it equal.

I don't include those situations where the opposite sex are a significant influence within the upbringing.

That's apart of the problem.....this is a relatively new policy and there won't be lot of data.

This is touchy feely social constructionist policy based upon 'feels'.

I certainly know that single parent families are responsible for many damaged individuals and a large crime rate is associated with the lack of a father....plenty of studies on that.

You can't blame people who go into relationships in good faith and then the father does a runner.....I don't blame those women....I blame any parent to doesn't take responsibility for their children....and that's usually (not always) missing fathers.

Sometimes those fathers are unfairly denied access for malign intent for spite....and sometimes it's for good reason.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Bollocks. Family values are not exclusive to a male female relationship, or the ‘model’ societal interpretation of what a family should be.

A single parent family can still abide by ‘family values’, much like a same sex parental family can.

To build on what someone else has already said, I’d rather the child went to a loving family/parents than stayed unloved, rejected in a broken system, even if there are potential theoretical nature/nurture negatives.

It’s better for society, as the alternative statistically will cause the child and society more damage.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (14 Feb 2018 7.06pm)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

What's wrong with a bit of outrage?

You are of course right with your overall summary....in the majority of good families.

But probably not all.....so isn't the state implicated in those situations?

Anyway....nothing wrong with a bit of venty venty.....I never got to vote on this....frigging PC politicians normalising lots of stuff I'm iffy about..on their obsessional minorities ticket.....Surely you get annoyed about something other than moaning about Brexit!

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2018 7.08pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

What outrage? I haven't seen any.