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Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 26 Jan 18 8.48am Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

The real (burger) meat of the story doesn't concern Murray or Parish at all.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Jan 18 8.52am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Oliver

The real meat of the story doesn't concern Murray or Parish at all.

No. The Mail are just s*** stirring for the sake of it otherwise they would mention that Murray and Parish are amongst 32 small investors in the company and neither are directors so have no influence over any aspects of how the company is run

 

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radsyrendot Flag From Coventry now in Leicester 26 Jan 18 9.57am Send a Private Message to radsyrendot Add radsyrendot as a friend

DirtyBird chicken shack

 

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Bangell Flag Oxford 26 Jan 18 10.42am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Steve Parish, Glenn Murray, and Wayne Routledge open a chicken shop together - sounds like the set-up for a joke

 

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dorking Flag 26 Jan 18 11.32am Send a Private Message to dorking Add dorking as a friend

I presume dirtybird is just the chicken variation of Dirty Burger, which seems to be the trendy way of describing 'artisan' beefburger places. In other words, trendy burger places

 

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Harry Beever Flag Newbury 26 Jan 18 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Harry Beever Add Harry Beever as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I think you are confusing assets with income. Agencies don’t need to hold much in the way of assets. The main one is probably goodwill but that may not be valued very high in such a fickle ‘industry’.

Thanks. I’m aware Dave that agents don’t own footballers but if you have a player contracted to an agent I was wondering if that’s considered an “asset” for the company or can assets only be physical objects? Must be a challenge valuing goodwill in football like you say.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Jan 18 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Beever

Thanks. I’m aware Dave that agents don’t own footballers but if you have a player contracted to an agent I was wondering if that’s considered an “asset” for the company or can assets only be physical objects? Must be a challenge valuing goodwill in football like you say.

I assume that I must be invisible as I've already said that the assets that you are referring to are cash and debtors and not footballers.

 

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Aray Flag South London 26 Jan 18 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Not gonna lie - I did have a second take on this. I thought the potential for a conflict of interest with Salthouse had a ring of truth. There is a potential conflict - Parish should have answered the question

"But asked on Thursday if his shares in Dirtybird represented a conflict of interest when Salthouse has been involved in at least eight Crystal Palace transfers since 2015, Parish declined to comment."

 

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palace99 Flag New Mills 26 Jan 18 1.18pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I assume that I must be invisible as I've already said that the assets that you are referring to are cash and debtors and not footballers.

Harry - assets don't have to be bricks and mortar, things such as intellectual property rights, and patents etc can be very valuable.

However, for an agent if they earn x and it goes through their company and they take it all as a wage then the company has no asset.

Goodwill is difficult to value - that would be say the brand coca cola, it's recognised all over the world etc.

For a footballer that would be complex.

For an agent with say 10 premier league footballers I believe the assets would be
1. any company buildings and hardware etc
2. goodwill of company i.e if they are regarded as a top agency it will be easier to get new clients etc
3. cash in bank etc
4. a value as to potential future earning s of those said clients

No 2 and 4 is very difficult to estimate and I guess most companies will be very conservative


 

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Harry Beever Flag Newbury 26 Jan 18 1.21pm Send a Private Message to Harry Beever Add Harry Beever as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

Not gonna lie - I did have a second take on this. I thought the potential for a conflict of interest with Salthouse had a ring of truth. There is a potential conflict - Parish should have answered the question

"But asked on Thursday if his shares in Dirtybird represented a conflict of interest when Salthouse has been involved in at least eight Crystal Palace transfers since 2015, Parish declined to comment."

Parish tweeted that he hadn’t been asked for a comment so possible that that’s artistic license on their part. Sorry Midlands Eagle. Not invisible. Surprised given agents fees and the scale of transfers they only have £3.7 million if the company is as large as the Mail infers . Maybe the surplus is invested in chickens? No doubt the financial arrangements of many agents and others in football are some what convoluted.

 

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Harry Beever Flag Newbury 26 Jan 18 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Harry Beever Add Harry Beever as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Harry - assets don't have to be bricks and mortar, things such as intellectual property rights, and patents etc can be very valuable.

However, for an agent if they earn x and it goes through their company and they take it all as a wage then the company has no asset.

Goodwill is difficult to value - that would be say the brand coca cola, it's recognised all over the world etc.

For a footballer that would be complex.

For an agent with say 10 premier league footballers I believe the assets would be
1. any company buildings and hardware etc
2. goodwill of company i.e if they are regarded as a top agency it will be easier to get new clients etc
3. cash in bank etc
4. a value as to potential future earning s of those said clients

No 2 and 4 is very difficult to estimate and I guess most companies will be very conservative


Thanks. Very interesting to someone as ignorant as me about these things.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Jan 18 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

Not gonna lie - I did have a second take on this. I thought the potential for a conflict of interest with Salthouse had a ring of truth. There is a potential conflict - Parish should have answered the question

"But asked on Thursday if his shares in Dirtybird represented a conflict of interest when Salthouse has been involved in at least eight Crystal Palace transfers since 2015, Parish declined to comment."

How can there be a conflict of interest as the two are small shareholders and neither have any say in the running of the company.

I wouldn't mind betting that Steve Parish has investments in loads of companies and probably doesn't have a clue who his co-shareholders are in them

 

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