Tell me, is it ‘racialist’ to ask people to pay more or less for the same item or service, based upon the colour of their skin? Is this ‘racislist’?

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UKIP never segregated people based on the colour of their skin and it is arguable that they did more to turn the working classes away from the ugliness of the BNP and it’s racism, than Labour ever did.

With regards UKiP’s, future, it doesn’t have one but that doesn’t mean that their underlying support has gone away, is now gentrified and singing off the same hymn sheet as the metropolitan leftist elite that currently runs Labour.

Whilst it is all very well holding your nose and pointing at Farage, examining the reasons why UKIP was so successful, why they won the referendum and how they came to be the most important political force of the 2010’s, has not been addressed by liberals or the left. All we hear from them is that people are being ‘lied too’ and that UKIP ‘stirs division’. Maybe it’s because New Labour, the Liberal Democrats, Cameron’s Tories and the current mainstream Labour & Tories, all ignored the white, working class (or what that constitutes today), forced change on them, decimated their communities, labelled them as racist (which in my experience is the complete of opposite of one of the most integrated and welcoming strands of society) and didn’t explain the benefits of globalisation, resulting in the big ‘up yours’ aimed at the establishment on June 23 2016.

RIP UKIP and thank you for getting us out of the EU, to define our own future and to regain our sovereignty.

Edited by matt_himself (23 Jan 2018 5.37am)

You have just illustrated my points in my post very succinctly.

Thank you.

Edited by matt_himself (23 Jan 2018 8.28am)

I don't necessarily think Brexit in theory would be doomed to failure, but like any such project should be well planned and carried out at the right time by the right people.

This has not been the blueprint.

I'd rather Paul the Octopus lead the definition of our future than this current abysmal government.

Brexit has been totally mishandled from start to finish. The whole process has been a farce. It was never taken seriously and so started off on the wrong foot with no leadership and it has got steadily worse from there.

If this is UKIP's legacy then it will go down in History as a force for extreme cock ups.

The lot in charge of it don't have a clue either. Now get off your soapbox before I climb on it and give you a big ol' boot up the jacksie.

I didn't say it would necessarily be any better simply by changing government.

The whole process should have been handled different by Dodgy Dave from the start. He doomed the whole thing to failure and now May et al are continuing his good work.

Given the current position and no prospect of anyone other than the Tories running the show it's not really currently incumbent on Labour to be setting out Brexit policy as it wouldn't be worth much. The time to do it will be as we get closer to any election. However I do think they could bring about an election much sooner than 2022 if they came out and said they were committed to single market membership in line with 85% of their membership. This would make significant government defeats on Brexit legislation by October almost certain and likely lead to another election. Add to this a likely recession and the fact that the UK is lagging way behind the rest of the OECD and that's a recipe for changing the course of Brexit and getting rid of the Tories.