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The Dolphin 22 Jan 18 7.58am
Good post Eagle Phil. Our problem moving forward from this (hopefully) one off defeat is a lack of players. We don't just have a lot of injuries but injuries to very key players Sakho Cabaye (maybe) RLC Townsend Schlupp Others are more bench players now but the total is horrible - not the worst in the Prem but pretty unbearable to a squad with our lack of quality in depth. If we cannot get some players in who can hit the ground running then we might have a problem. We also seem to start games slowly and Arsenal took full advantage on Saturday - game over in the first 20 minutes. Opposition Managers with nous will try the same thing. We have as good a chance as ten other teams of staying up or going down but we need to change those odds in our favour and get 3/4 half decent players in asap.
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22 Jan 18 7.58am

Good post Eagle Phil.
Our problem moving forward from this (hopefully) one off defeat is a lack of players.
We don't just have a lot of injuries but injuries to very key players
Sakho
Cabaye (maybe)
RLC
Townsend
Schlupp
Others are more bench players now but the total is horrible - not the worst in the Prem but pretty unbearable to a squad with our lack of quality in depth.
If we cannot get some players in who can hit the ground running then we might have a problem.
We also seem to start games slowly and Arsenal took full advantage on Saturday - game over in the first 20 minutes.
Opposition Managers with nous will try the same thing.
We have as good a chance as ten other teams of staying up or going down but we need to change those odds in our favour and get 3/4 half decent players in asap.

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER PORTIMAO 22 Jan 18 3.21pm
Originally posted by adrian b I find it surprising how anybody who has followed Palace for any amount of time can be so certain of how Palace are going to perform. In fact we should all know the more we know about predicting Palace the less we know. Willo, expect Palace to surprise at Wet Spam Edited by adrian b (21 Jan 2018 11.13pm) If you just go for the opposite of the results that i predict, you will never be wrong
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Originally posted by adrian b

I find it surprising how anybody who has followed Palace for any amount of time can be so certain of how Palace are going to perform. In fact we should all know the more we know about predicting Palace the less we know. Willo, expect Palace to surprise at Wet Spam

Edited by adrian b (21 Jan 2018 11.13pm)

If you just go for the opposite of the results that i predict, you will never be wrong

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 23 Jan 18 9.31am
Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER If you just go for the opposite of the results that i predict, you will never be wrong Yep. That's Palace
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Landrindod, Wales 23 Jan 18 9.31am

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

If you just go for the opposite of the results that i predict, you will never be wrong

Yep. That's Palace

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victor43 St. Albans 23 Jan 18 10.15am
Originally posted by Willo Indeed. Despite such an excellent run we are still just 3 pts from safety and with all our injuries and our main striker having only scored 1 goal all season, we simply cannot hope to carry on with such a sequence of results with our current squad.Our only hope is to strengthen significantly and hope the players that are brought in perform to the required standard.Failures in the transfer market will lead to relegation.Sounds very negative but I am trying to be realistic. Edited by Willo (21 Jan 2018 8.58pm) Why? Our current squad are the ones who have performed to take us on that great run, and it's not like we got particularly lucky in that run, we could have easily won more of those games. A team who has played consistently pretty well all season is not going to suddenly turn into a terrible team. We need some transfers in, that's for sure, but when the injuries ease off I have great faith we will stay up. In terms of transfers, we need depth - I think if we bought a back up striker, back up defender and back up keeper we would still be fine this season. Tekkers will start scoring, especially when Andros is back in the team Blog: Andy Johnson's Magic Hat [Link] Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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St. Albans 23 Jan 18 10.15am

Originally posted by Willo

Indeed.

Despite such an excellent run we are still just 3 pts from safety and with all our injuries and our main striker having only scored 1 goal all season, we simply cannot hope to carry on with such a sequence of results with our current squad.Our only hope is to strengthen significantly and hope the players that are brought in perform to the required standard.Failures in the transfer market will lead to relegation.Sounds very negative but I am trying to be realistic.

Edited by Willo (21 Jan 2018 8.58pm)

Why? Our current squad are the ones who have performed to take us on that great run, and it's not like we got particularly lucky in that run, we could have easily won more of those games.

A team who has played consistently pretty well all season is not going to suddenly turn into a terrible team.

We need some transfers in, that's for sure, but when the injuries ease off I have great faith we will stay up. In terms of transfers, we need depth - I think if we bought a back up striker, back up defender and back up keeper we would still be fine this season. Tekkers will start scoring, especially when Andros is back in the team

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Jan 18 10.26am
Originally posted by victor43 Why? Our current squad are the ones who have performed to take us on that great run, and it's not like we got particularly lucky in that run, we could have easily won more of those games. A team who has played consistently pretty well all season is not going to suddenly turn into a terrible team. We need some transfers in, that's for sure, but when the injuries ease off I have great faith we will stay up. In terms of transfers, we need depth - I think if we bought a back up striker, back up defender and back up keeper we would still be fine this season. Tekkers will start scoring, especially when Andros is back in the team With respect I wasn't advocating that we would evolve into a "Terrible team". I was merely questioning our ability to maintain the level of performance and results we have witnessed over the past 13 games recognising that teams sometimes go through a sticky patch after a sequence of impressive results.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Jan 18 10.26am

Originally posted by victor43

Why? Our current squad are the ones who have performed to take us on that great run, and it's not like we got particularly lucky in that run, we could have easily won more of those games.

A team who has played consistently pretty well all season is not going to suddenly turn into a terrible team.

With respect I wasn't advocating that we would evolve into a "Terrible team".

I was merely questioning our ability to maintain the level of performance and results we have witnessed over the past 13 games recognising that teams sometimes go through a sticky patch after a sequence of impressive results.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Jan 18 10.54am
Originally posted by Willo With respect I wasn't advocating that we would evolve into a "Terrible team". I was merely questioning our ability to maintain the level of performance and results we have witnessed over the past 13 games recognising that teams sometimes go through a sticky patch after a sequence of impressive results. We've been in mid table and above form. Now we need survival form. Done. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Jan 18 10.54am

Originally posted by Willo

With respect I wasn't advocating that we would evolve into a "Terrible team".

We've been in mid table and above form.

Now we need survival form.

Done.

COYP

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victor43 St. Albans 23 Jan 18 2.32pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman We've been in mid table and above form. Now we need survival form. Done. Thank you Rudi. In my view, there would have to be a significant drop off in our performances for us to drop below survival form (roughly 1 point per game). There has been no indication from these last 4 months that we are going to drop off like that Blog: Andy Johnson's Magic Hat [Link] Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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St. Albans 23 Jan 18 2.32pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We've been in mid table and above form.

Now we need survival form.

Done.

Thank you Rudi. In my view, there would have to be a significant drop off in our performances for us to drop below survival form (roughly 1 point per game).

There has been no indication from these last 4 months that we are going to drop off like that

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PJH Colchester 23 Jan 18 3.47pm
Originally posted by victor43 Thank you Rudi. In my view, there would have to be a significant drop off in our performances for us to drop below survival form (roughly 1 point per game). There has been no indication from these last 4 months that we are going to drop off like that Injuries ? We have half the first team out now ,Mama, Joel Ward,Scott Dann,Schluppy,RLC, Yohan, Punch, Andros, Connor Wickham (If he counts !) with a few of those not back for a while if not the rest of the season. If we had a mostly fit squad then we'd be fine, but I'm beginning to get nervous.
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Colchester 23 Jan 18 3.47pm

Originally posted by victor43

Thank you Rudi. In my view, there would have to be a significant drop off in our performances for us to drop below survival form (roughly 1 point per game).

There has been no indication from these last 4 months that we are going to drop off like that

Injuries ? We have half the first team out now ,Mama, Joel Ward,Scott Dann,Schluppy,RLC, Yohan, Punch, Andros, Connor Wickham (If he counts !) with a few of those not back for a while if not the rest of the season. If we had a mostly fit squad then we'd be fine, but I'm beginning to get nervous.

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victor43 St. Albans 24 Jan 18 3.46pm
Originally posted by PJH Injuries ? We have half the first team out now ,Mama, Joel Ward,Scott Dann,Schluppy,RLC, Yohan, Punch, Andros, Connor Wickham (If he counts !) with a few of those not back for a while if not the rest of the season. If we had a mostly fit squad then we'd be fine, but I'm beginning to get nervous. Yes that is a concern, but still not enough (in my eyes) to turn our form completely into less than a point a game from here on in. Would take a few more injuries I think, first 11 at the moment is still strong (especially considering Andros and Ward are back, hopefully Cabaye not gone long too) Blog: Andy Johnson's Magic Hat [Link] Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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St. Albans 24 Jan 18 3.46pm

Originally posted by PJH

Yes that is a concern, but still not enough (in my eyes) to turn our form completely into less than a point a game from here on in.

Would take a few more injuries I think, first 11 at the moment is still strong (especially considering Andros and Ward are back, hopefully Cabaye not gone long too)

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rollercoaster Cornwall 24 Jan 18 7.33pm
The team have been playing cup-finals week in, week out since Roy took over. This is not sustainable and I can see us having a run of defeats following our good recent form. However, if we can get a couple of new first teamers in this window and they start well then that could pull the team through and avoid the bad run. For the first time this season I actually don't think we will go down as I think we will have a good spell of results towards the end of the season when some of our injured return to fitness.
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Cornwall 24 Jan 18 7.33pm

The team have been playing cup-finals week in, week out since Roy took over. This is not sustainable and I can see us having a run of defeats following our good recent form. However, if we can get a couple of new first teamers in this window and they start well then that could pull the team through and avoid the bad run.

For the first time this season I actually don't think we will go down as I think we will have a good spell of results towards the end of the season when some of our injured return to fitness.

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Podyonkers Atlanta, Georgia 25 Jan 18 4.14am
We need to stop giving up the first goal within the first few minutes, we really do. Stealing their women and eating their food since 1987.
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Atlanta, Georgia 25 Jan 18 4.14am

We need to stop giving up the first goal within the first few minutes, we really do.

Stealing their women and eating their food since 1987.

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Petereagle Brockley 25 Jan 18 9.32am
Originally posted by Harry Beever I agree. I think a spanking when players are starting to relax a little prematurely in the season will hopefully focus a few minds. An article which sums up my feelings quite nicely. Except that I dont think there is anything called mid table mediocrity any more. I think its either top eight or so clubs spending zillions, or all the other clubs any three of which could go down if they hit a bad run of form, loads of injuries, a poorly timed managerial appointment. Etc. In Palace´s case, we made a disastrous managerial appointment followed by the excellence which Hodgson has provided and a very good but small squad undermined by injuries. I really think the next week will determine whether we stay up or get sucked into a dire relegation battle until the last game. If we can get 5 or 6 very good players in then we should be OK. If we dont, or the new players we bring in dont perform then... [Link]
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Brockley 25 Jan 18 9.32am

Originally posted by Harry Beever

I agree. I think a spanking when players are starting to relax a little prematurely in the season will hopefully focus a few minds.

An article which sums up my feelings quite nicely. Except that I dont think there is anything called mid table mediocrity any more. I think its either top eight or so clubs spending zillions, or all the other clubs any three of which could go down if they hit a bad run of form, loads of injuries, a poorly timed managerial appointment. Etc. In Palace´s case, we made a disastrous managerial appointment followed by the excellence which Hodgson has provided and a very good but small squad undermined by injuries. I really think the next week will determine whether we stay up or get sucked into a dire relegation battle until the last game. If we can get 5 or 6 very good players in then we should be OK. If we dont, or the new players we bring in dont perform then...

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