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Totally overrated hes now got the same little boy lost look on his face thst we saw with Hull last season. Id rather have Roy any day

Beat me to posting, Watford get through more managers than us - Mark Hughes anybody after all we could do with them beneath us.

Two things strike me. One is that the highly touted Marco Silva is over-rated. Watford, as they usually have done since coming up, won a few games early then settled into midseason mediocrity. Silva did nothing to change that pattern. However, the Pozzo's let the two previous managers finish the season. Has Watfords form been so bad under Silva that he deserved to go before the transfer window shut? Since the only time I care about Watford is when they play Palace, I really don't know the answer to that question.

The second is that there has been a whole lot of front running by pundits when it comes to Silva. Yes, he did improve Hull's form last year but not nearly enough to avoid the drop. His demeanour at Selhurst last spring was one of complete resignation when Zaha's goal went in for 1-0. He did nothing to rally his players and just became a spectator while we ended up thrashing them 4-0. I saw the same resignation when Palace came back on Watford earlier this season. Yes, they had a sending off. However, Palace in recent years haven't normally been able to take advantage when up a player. Not this time. Hodgson made tactical changes, the players responded and Palace stormed back for the win. Silva, on the other hand, just sat in his dugout seemingly bemoaning his side's fate. No tactical realignment, no words of encouragement for his players, nothing. However, the TV commentators continued their paeans of praise for him until the Palace goals went in.

Last night I met a retired PL ref at a party in Manhattan who works for MLS HQ. I wish I could remember his name but I had a couple of gin on the rocks and wasn't feeling much pain. He is a West Brom supporter and had nothing but praise and admiration for Roy Hodgson. The word that he kept using to describe him was "classy." On the other hand, from what I've seen of him, admittedly all on TV, Marco Silva just doesn't seem to have the grit and determination it takes to succeed in English football, either as a player or coach/manager. Couple that with an ownership that keeps changing managers at the drop of a hat and then coming up with lame excuses for the changes and the seeds of disaster have definitely been sown. Would someone please tell me how it is Everton's fault that Silva didn't meet expectations at Watford? Are they saying that Silva was so distracted he couldn't keep his attention on his job to manage the Hornets? That seems terribly lame to me.

Palace had a miserable start with RdB but Hodgson is clearly an inspired choice. Marco Silva, who has been the flavor of the month for some, clearly was not. I believe his next job will be on the continent. He wasn't made to be a manager of an English club. Unless, of course, Ashley decides to fire Rafa or Rafa gets fed up and leaves. Then Silva certainly fits in with the drama that is The Toon.

Edited by kenbarr (21 Jan 2018 11.52am)

Two things strike me. One is that the highly touted Marco Silva is over-rated. Watford, as they usually have done since coming up, won a few games early then settled into midseason mediocrity. Silva did nothing to change that pattern. However, the Pozzo's let the two previous managers finish the season. Has Watfords form been so bad under Silva that he deserved to go before the transfer window shut? Since the only time I care about Watford is when they play Palace, I really don't know the answer to that question.

The second is that there has been a whole lot of front running by pundits when it comes to Silva. Yes, he did improve Hull's form last year but not nearly enough to avoid the drop. His demeanour at Selhurst last spring was one of complete resignation when Zaha's goal went in for 1-0. He did nothing to rally his players and just became a spectator while we ended up thrashing them 4-0. I saw the same resignation when Palace came back on Watford earlier this season. Yes, they had a sending off. However, Palace in recent years haven't normally been able to take advantage when up a player. Not this time. Hodgson made tactical changes, the players responded and Palace stormed back for the win. Silva, on the other hand, just sat in his dugout seemingly bemoaning his side's fate. No tactical realignment, no words of encouragement for his players, nothing. However, the TV commentators continued their paeans of praise for him until the Palace goals went in.

Last night I met a retired PL ref at a party in Manhattan who works for MLS HQ. I wish I could remember his name but I had a couple of gin on the rocks and wasn't feeling much pain. He is a West Brom supporter and had nothing but praise and admiration for Roy Hodgson. The word that he kept using to describe him was "classy." On the other hand, from what I've seen of him, admittedly all on TV, Marco Silva just doesn't seem to have the grit and determination it takes to succeed in English football, either as a player or coach/manager. Couple that with an ownership that keeps changing managers at the drop of a hat and then coming up with lame excuses for the changes and the seeds of disaster have definitely been sown. Would someone please tell me how it is Everton's fault that Silva didn't meet expectations at Watford? Are they saying that Silva was so distracted he couldn't keep his attention on his job to manage the Hornets? That seems terribly lame to me.

Palace had a miserable start with RdB but Hodgson is clearly an inspired choice. Marco Silva, who has been the flavor of the month for some, clearly was not. I believe his next job will be on the continent. He wasn't made to be a manager of an English club. Unless, of course, Ashley decides to fire Rafa or Rafa gets fed up and leaves. Then Silva certainly fits in with the drama that is The Toon.

Edited by kenbarr (21 Jan 2018 11.52am)

My son and I got chatting to a couple of Baggies fans before our recent game up there and they were full of praise for Roy. Must admit that at the time I thought we had made a mistake by not going for Silva when BFS resigned. Looks like I was dead wrong. Still think he would have done a better job than de Boer though!