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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Jan 18 5.40pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger With this, I agree but it still relates to attitudes that prevail among the hard of thinking. By perpetuating this kind of thinking, everyone is making a rod for their own back. We need to move past this retrograde thinking. This is people trying really hard to be offended by something that was not intended to offend. That you cannot see how the original ad was offensive says a lot more about you than it does about society at large. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

With this, I agree but it still relates to attitudes that prevail among the hard of thinking.
By perpetuating this kind of thinking, everyone is making a rod for their own back. We need to move past this retrograde thinking.
This is people trying really hard to be offended by something that was not intended to offend.

That you cannot see how the original ad was offensive says a lot more about you than it does about society at large.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 08 Jan 18 5.42pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This really demonstrates the absurdity of pandering to tiny minds. It beggars belief that a store has actually backed down and apologised for this. Someone has to draw a line and say no further. Clearly, some don't understand that if you keep giving ground then you will be giving it forever. The store is more concerned about their short term sales. [Link] Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Jan 2018 4.49pm) Having looked at the link, your comments say far more about you Hrolf than they do about pretty much anything else. "If you keep giving ground, then you will be giving it forever?" Perhaps true and perhaps a valid statement to make about the current climate on this site. Edited by Mr_Gristle (08 Jan 2018 5.42pm) Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)
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In the land of Whelk Eaters 08 Jan 18 5.42pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This really demonstrates the absurdity of pandering to tiny minds.
It beggars belief that a store has actually backed down and apologised for this.
Someone has to draw a line and say no further. Clearly, some don't understand that if you keep giving ground then you will be giving it forever. The store is more concerned about their short term sales.

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Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Jan 2018 4.49pm)

Having looked at the link, your comments say far more about you Hrolf than they do about pretty much anything else.

"If you keep giving ground, then you will be giving it forever?" Perhaps true and perhaps a valid statement to make about the current climate on this site.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (08 Jan 2018 5.42pm)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.42pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston You have no clue (as usual). The modelling session and the copywriters who writer the ad are two completely divorced activities. There's no way the parents could have objected at the time; to them, their son was being photographed for an H&M catalog. It's only much, much later that some idiot decided to use a monkey reference for the ad. And before you challenge my bona fides on this, my wife used to model for clothing catalogues, so I know from her stories how these things go. The models are treated like props, rushed in / rushed out, and have no say or even clue about how those photos will be used ultimately. Once they're paid for allowing their image to be taken, that image is no longer theirs - it belongs to whoever paid them for it. Well you don't know the circumstances of this particular exercise any more than I do. Kid models are a little different to adults. Irrespective of that. The point is that we can't continue to make various animals, objects or any other miscellaneous thing 'sensitive' just because a small group with a noisy lobby decide to get 'offended'. That offends me.
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

You have no clue (as usual). The modelling session and the copywriters who writer the ad are two completely divorced activities. There's no way the parents could have objected at the time; to them, their son was being photographed for an H&M catalog. It's only much, much later that some idiot decided to use a monkey reference for the ad.

And before you challenge my bona fides on this, my wife used to model for clothing catalogues, so I know from her stories how these things go. The models are treated like props, rushed in / rushed out, and have no say or even clue about how those photos will be used ultimately. Once they're paid for allowing their image to be taken, that image is no longer theirs - it belongs to whoever paid them for it.

Well you don't know the circumstances of this particular exercise any more than I do. Kid models are a little different to adults.

Irrespective of that. The point is that we can't continue to make various animals, objects or any other miscellaneous thing 'sensitive' just because a small group with a noisy lobby decide to get 'offended'.
That offends me.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.45pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Having looked at the link, your comments say far more about you Hrolf than they do about pretty much anything else. "If you keep giving ground, then you will be giving it forever?" Perhaps true and perhaps a valid statement to make about the current climate on this site. Edited by Mr_Gristle (08 Jan 2018 5.42pm) Perhaps you could explain further.
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Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jan 18 5.45pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Having looked at the link, your comments say far more about you Hrolf than they do about pretty much anything else.

"If you keep giving ground, then you will be giving it forever?" Perhaps true and perhaps a valid statement to make about the current climate on this site.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (08 Jan 2018 5.42pm)

Perhaps you could explain further.

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johnno42000 08 Jan 18 5.48pm
Dare not say anything or it'll either be deleted or I'll be carded. Welcome to the brave new world. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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08 Jan 18 5.48pm

Dare not say anything or it'll either be deleted or I'll be carded. Welcome to the brave new world.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.49pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston That you cannot see how the original ad was offensive says a lot more about you than it does about society at large. I know what it is all about Ray, but I have grown up. Relating people to animals is the stuff of the school playground. I can't believe adults on either side of this discussion have the time or inclination to give a s***. That is the point I am making. I am actually disappointed with myself for wasting time posting a thread about it. The whole thing is pathetic.
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Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jan 18 5.49pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

That you cannot see how the original ad was offensive says a lot more about you than it does about society at large.

I know what it is all about Ray, but I have grown up.
Relating people to animals is the stuff of the school playground. I can't believe adults on either side of this discussion have the time or inclination to give a s***. That is the point I am making.
I am actually disappointed with myself for wasting time posting a thread about it. The whole thing is pathetic.

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regal_eagle somewhere 08 Jan 18 5.52pm
Who's a cheeky monkey?! [Link]
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Who's a cheeky monkey?!

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DanH SW2 08 Jan 18 7.33pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 Dare not say anything or it'll either be deleted or I'll be carded. Welcome to the brave new world. Ha, this is seriously weird on here at the moment.
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DanH

SW2 08 Jan 18 7.33pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

Dare not say anything or it'll either be deleted or I'll be carded. Welcome to the brave new world.

Ha, this is seriously weird on here at the moment.

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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 18 7.47pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston How about not using the word "monkey" to describe anything that isn't a monkey? Stop making a monkey of yourself. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

08 Jan 18 7.47pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

How about not using the word "monkey" to describe anything that isn't a monkey?

Stop making a monkey of yourself.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Jan 18 7.57pm
I fail to understand how these marketing whizzes earn such absolutely ridiculous salaries. I would also think that this had to be approved by various layers of management. That said if the model had been a cute white kid I doubt very much if this would of been brought to notice unless the white kid had been wearing a hoody with 'What a little Cracker' on it. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Jan 18 7.57pm

I fail to understand how these marketing whizzes earn such absolutely ridiculous salaries. I would also think that this had to be approved by various layers of management. That said if the model had been a cute white kid I doubt very much if this would of been brought to notice unless the white kid had been wearing a hoody with 'What a little Cracker' on it.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 8.03pm
Originally posted by Jimenez I fail to understand how these marketing whizzes earn such absolutely ridiculous salaries. I would also think that this had to be approved by various layers of management. That said if the model had been a cute white kid I doubt very much if this would of been brought to notice unless the white kid had been wearing a hoody with 'What a little Cracker' on it. Let's be honest. No white person would care if it had said Honkey mutherfujer. I laugh at myself all the time. It's so much better and more liberating than being so uptight and taking offence at everything.
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Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jan 18 8.03pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

I fail to understand how these marketing whizzes earn such absolutely ridiculous salaries. I would also think that this had to be approved by various layers of management. That said if the model had been a cute white kid I doubt very much if this would of been brought to notice unless the white kid had been wearing a hoody with 'What a little Cracker' on it.

Let's be honest. No white person would care if it had said Honkey mutherfujer. I laugh at myself all the time. It's so much better and more liberating than being so uptight and taking offence at everything.

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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Jan 18 8.05pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Well you don't know the circumstances of this particular exercise any more than I do. Kid models are a little different to adults. Irrespective of that. The point is that we can't continue to make various animals, objects or any other miscellaneous thing 'sensitive' just because a small group with a noisy lobby decide to get 'offended'. That offends me. My wife was a kid model when she modelled, so I know more than you. And give over on the "we're making animals sensitive" bollocks. This was an add that called a black child a monkey - that's offensive on its face. Had the ad referred to him as a kitten at play, there's no issue. And it wasn't a progressive society that put "monkey" off limits when trying to describe - playfully - a black child; it was every racist everywhere who - still to this day - use the word, make monkey noises and throw bananas at people of colour. They f*ed it for you, not progressives. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just waing with a football.
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Ray in Houston

Houston 08 Jan 18 8.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Well you don't know the circumstances of this particular exercise any more than I do. Kid models are a little different to adults.

My wife was a kid model when she modelled, so I know more than you.

And give over on the "we're making animals sensitive" bollocks. This was an add that called a black child a monkey - that's offensive on its face. Had the ad referred to him as a kitten at play, there's no issue.

And it wasn't a progressive society that put "monkey" off limits when trying to describe - playfully - a black child; it was every racist everywhere who - still to this day - use the word, make monkey noises and throw bananas at people of colour. They f***ed it for you, not progressives.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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