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black eagle. south croydon. 30 Nov 17 1.10am
Originally posted by Willo I was only saying tonight that I have envisaged Huddersfield plunging down the table in the New Year after a promising start in the manner of Blackpool and Hull. Agree With you Willo,i think Huddersfield will be like Hull last season and possibly go down.
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south croydon. 30 Nov 17 1.10am

Originally posted by Willo

I was only saying tonight that I have envisaged Huddersfield plunging down the table in the New Year after a promising start in the manner of Blackpool and Hull.

Agree With you Willo,i think Huddersfield will be like Hull last season and possibly go down.

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chateauferret 30 Nov 17 1.22am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 And it was only in August that you were praising there recruitment.!!!! Well their recriuitment hasn't been bad given the money available and the fact that their playing style revolves not so much around footballing skill as around agricultural thuggery. The problem is that teams like that can't sustain it for 38 matches and get found out. The other thing about them is that they think they're doing quite well until it's too late to blame the manager and kick him out, or to break the bank in the January market. Odds for going down Us: 6 / 4 against This lot: evens or a little longer Wet Spam: pretty well evens Swansea: goosed So that's now three teams the market thinks are shorter odds than us to get relegated. Edited by chateauferret (30 Nov 2017 1.30am) ============ The Ferret ============
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30 Nov 17 1.22am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

And it was only in August that you were praising there recruitment.!!!!

Well their recriuitment hasn't been bad given the money available and the fact that their playing style revolves not so much around footballing skill as around agricultural thuggery. The problem is that teams like that can't sustain it for 38 matches and get found out. The other thing about them is that they think they're doing quite well until it's too late to blame the manager and kick him out, or to break the bank in the January market.

Odds for going down

Us: 6 / 4 against
This lot: evens or a little longer
Wet Spam: pretty well evens
Swansea: goosed

So that's now three teams the market thinks are shorter odds than us to get relegated.

Edited by chateauferret (30 Nov 2017 1.30am)

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wordup 30 Nov 17 1.42am
There definitely positive signs now and thank god for it. It was like some had already thrown in the towel. These were good results for us and if we hit a decent run of form who knows what's possible. Our chances of staying up are looking good if we can keep the momentum going. Three decent results in a row, bring on number four. The west brom and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season. Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 2.08am)
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30 Nov 17 1.42am

There definitely positive signs now and thank god for it. It was like some had already thrown in the towel. These were good results for us and if we hit a decent run of form who knows what's possible. Our chances of staying up are looking good if we can keep the momentum going. Three decent results in a row, bring on number four.

The west brom and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season.

Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 2.08am)

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wordup 30 Nov 17 1.45am
Originally posted by chateauferret Well their recriuitment hasn't been bad given the money available and the fact that their playing style revolves not so much around footballing skill as around agricultural thuggery. The problem is that teams like that can't sustain it for 38 matches and get found out. The other thing about them is that they think they're doing quite well until it's too late to blame the manager and kick him out, or to break the bank in the January market. Odds for going down Us: 6 / 4 against This lot: evens or a little longer Wet Spam: pretty well evens Swansea: goosed So that's now three teams the market thinks are shorter odds than us to get relegated. Edited by chateauferret (30 Nov 2017 1.30am) I didn't know the actual odds. This reads just about right to me really taking everything into account. I'm a bit more optimistic on our chances of staying up but we'll see.
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30 Nov 17 1.45am

Originally posted by chateauferret

Odds for going down

Us: 6 / 4 against
This lot: evens or a little longer
Wet Spam: pretty well evens
Swansea: goosed

So that's now three teams the market thinks are shorter odds than us to get relegated.

Edited by chateauferret (30 Nov 2017 1.30am)

I didn't know the actual odds. This reads just about right to me really taking everything into account. I'm a bit more optimistic on our chances of staying up but we'll see.

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 30 Nov 17 1.55am
Originally posted by wordup There definitely positive signs now and thank god for it. It was like some had already thrown in the towel. These were good results for us and if we hit a decent run of form who knows what's possible. Our chances of staying up are looking good if we can keep the momentum going. Three decent results in a row, bring on number four. The west ham and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season. Brom. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 30 Nov 17 1.55am

Originally posted by wordup

The west ham and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season.

Brom.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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wordup 30 Nov 17 2.09am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 Brom. Confirmation that it's too late for me to post haha
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30 Nov 17 2.09am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Brom.

Confirmation that it's too late for me to post haha

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black eagle. south croydon. 30 Nov 17 5.40am
Originally posted by wordup There definitely positive signs now and thank god for it. It was like some had already thrown in the towel. These were good results for us and if we hit a decent run of form who knows what's possible. Our chances of staying up are looking good if we can keep the momentum going. Three decent results in a row, bring on number four. The west brom and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season. Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 2.08am) If we can get four points or more from the next two games that'll be great.
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south croydon. 30 Nov 17 5.40am

Originally posted by wordup

The west brom and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season.

Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 2.08am)

If we can get four points or more from the next two games that'll be great.

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Loz83 Crawley 30 Nov 17 6.45am
Looks like Huddersfield are sinking big time!
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Crawley 30 Nov 17 6.45am

Looks like Huddersfield are sinking big time!

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 30 Nov 17 7.41am
Every season at least one club suddenly plunges from seemingly mid-table security into the relegation tussle. Huddersfield have looked suspect for some time, though their physical approach has done them well. Brighton are faring quite well but they should have looked more confident against the bottom team, and Burnley are really flying. I truly expect two of those teams to go into free-fall with Southampton, soon. The Baggies, who knows, but possible. With Super Pards anything is and Stoke do look ropey. This season has only just started. I'm not saying Palace for Europe, but add Wet Spam and the decaying Toffees to the list....who knows now.
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Landrindod, Wales 30 Nov 17 7.41am

Every season at least one club suddenly plunges from seemingly mid-table security into the relegation tussle. Huddersfield have looked suspect for some time, though their physical approach has done them well. Brighton are faring quite well but they should have looked more confident against the bottom team, and Burnley are really flying. I truly expect two of those teams to go into free-fall with Southampton, soon.
The Baggies, who knows, but possible. With Super Pards anything is and Stoke do look ropey. This season has only just started. I'm not saying Palace for Europe, but add Wet Spam and the decaying Toffees to the list....who knows now.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 17 9.23am
Originally posted by wordup There definitely positive signs now and thank god for it. It was like some had already thrown in the towel. These were good results for us and if we hit a decent run of form who knows what's possible. Our chances of staying up are looking good if we can keep the momentum going. Three decent results in a row, bring on number four. The west brom and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f* either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season. Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 2.08am) People keep saying this and counting on points we haven't got yet. The fact is we're one injury to a front player away from being hamstrung again and are yet to show the good form or performances with results either. But we're difficult to beat, respecting the point, which is important in this league, with a bit of endeavour to win, but not yet enough for me looking at us vs Stoke & Brighton. We need a lot of points before Arsenal and Man City and it feels as if we're not in a hurry and waiting for them to become available rather than making them ours. Maybe I'm wrong but the next few easier ones won't roll over like some think. COYP**
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Caterham 30 Nov 17 9.23am

Originally posted by wordup

There definitely positive signs now and thank god for it. It was like some had already thrown in the towel. These were good results for us and if we hit a decent run of form who knows what's possible. Our chances of staying up are looking good if we can keep the momentum going. Three decent results in a row, bring on number four.

The west brom and bournmouth games are massively important. If we f*** either of those two up, it could come back to haunt us later in the season.

Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 2.08am)

People keep saying this and counting on points we haven't got yet.

The fact is we're one injury to a front player away from being hamstrung again and are yet to show the good form or performances with results either. But we're difficult to beat, respecting the point, which is important in this league, with a bit of endeavour to win, but not yet enough for me looking at us vs Stoke & Brighton. We need a lot of points before Arsenal and Man City and it feels as if we're not in a hurry and waiting for them to become available rather than making them ours. Maybe I'm wrong but the next few easier ones won't roll over like some think.

COYP

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silvertop Portishead 30 Nov 17 9.30am
Originally posted by chateauferret Plus which Wet Spam have played the new manager card and drawn a turkey. Allardyce has gone to a team that would surely have stayed up anyway and we still get our £2m. West Brom have fired a good manager and replaced him with a well-known muppet. The teams above us have hardly picked up a point in the time it's taken us to nearly catch them up. Tonight three of them dropped points they could have won and the other three got spanked. Swansea will probably go for Pulis but the problem there isn't the manager - it's the fact that they sold Gylfi and Llorente, didn't replace them, and brought in that Sanchez character who has turned out to be a dud. They probably have little funds for the coming window. In any case it's not even impossible to stay up if you're bottom on Christmas Day - it's happened twice, West Brom years ago at our expense and Leicester the other year, when they looked dead and buried even in March and not only got out of it but won the thing the following year. Edited by chateauferret (29 Nov 2017 10.37pm) I am amazed it took you so long to post this. Perhaps you have commented elsewhere? Time will tell which manager does best out of Allardyce and Pardew given the respective assets at their disposal. Trust me ferret, I am happy to be proved both right and wrong on this one.
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silvertop

Portishead 30 Nov 17 9.30am

Originally posted by chateauferret

Plus which

Wet Spam have played the new manager card and drawn a turkey.
Allardyce has gone to a team that would surely have stayed up anyway and we still get our £2m.
West Brom have fired a good manager and replaced him with a well-known muppet.
The teams above us have hardly picked up a point in the time it's taken us to nearly catch them up.
Tonight three of them dropped points they could have won and the other three got spanked.

Swansea will probably go for Pulis but the problem there isn't the manager - it's the fact that they sold Gylfi and Llorente, didn't replace them, and brought in that Sanchez character who has turned out to be a dud. They probably have little funds for the coming window.

In any case it's not even impossible to stay up if you're bottom on Christmas Day - it's happened twice, West Brom years ago at our expense and Leicester the other year, when they looked dead and buried even in March and not only got out of it but won the thing the following year.

Edited by chateauferret (29 Nov 2017 10.37pm)

I am amazed it took you so long to post this. Perhaps you have commented elsewhere?

Time will tell which manager does best out of Allardyce and Pardew given the respective assets at their disposal. Trust me ferret, I am happy to be proved both right and wrong on this one.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 17 9.32am
Originally posted by adrian b Every season at least one club suddenly plunges from seemingly mid-table security into the relegation tussle. Huddersfield have looked suspect for some time, though their physical approach has done them well. Brighton are faring quite well but they should have looked more confident against the bottom team, and Burnley are really flying. I truly expect two of those teams to go into free-fall with Southampton, soon. The Baggies, who knows, but possible. With Super Pards anything is and Stoke do look ropey. This season has only just started. I'm not saying Palace for Europe, but add Wet Spam and the decaying Toffees to the list....who knows now. I really do not think that Everton will be relegation candidates, especially as Allardyce will be taking up the reins.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 17 9.32am

Originally posted by adrian b

Every season at least one club suddenly plunges from seemingly mid-table security into the relegation tussle. Huddersfield have looked suspect for some time, though their physical approach has done them well. Brighton are faring quite well but they should have looked more confident against the bottom team, and Burnley are really flying. I truly expect two of those teams to go into free-fall with Southampton, soon.
The Baggies, who knows, but possible. With Super Pards anything is and Stoke do look ropey. This season has only just started. I'm not saying Palace for Europe, but add Wet Spam and the decaying Toffees to the list....who knows now.

I really do not think that Everton will be relegation candidates, especially as Allardyce will be taking up the reins.

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