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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.47pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger How much will he cost? Surely you don't think we should blow all our money on one player rather than spread it across strengthening the whole squad..? Got no idea but if we can shift some of the deadwood, and we have mucho plenty of that, then maybe that will help to finance it. Plus, if we stay up that's another £130mill coming our way. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.47pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

How much will he cost?

Surely you don't think we should blow all our money on one player rather than spread it across strengthening the whole squad..?

Got no idea but if we can shift some of the deadwood, and we have mucho plenty of that, then maybe that will help to finance it. Plus, if we stay up that's another £130mill coming our way.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 12 Nov 17 10.54pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Got no idea but if we can shift some of the deadwood, and we have mucho plenty of that, then maybe that will help to finance it. Plus, if we stay up that's another £130mill coming our way. Everyone is keen to pay up and sign great players but still moan that our squad isn't deep. Sounds like we want our cake and to eat it. Let's spunk our money on RLC and then slag the owners as our second and third choice aren't the same cut.... Of course there not gonna be... I am all for signing the lad. Just saying we can't have everything.
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Just down the road 12 Nov 17 10.54pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Got no idea but if we can shift some of the deadwood, and we have mucho plenty of that, then maybe that will help to finance it. Plus, if we stay up that's another £130mill coming our way.

Everyone is keen to pay up and sign great players but still moan that our squad isn't deep.

Sounds like we want our cake and to eat it.

Let's spunk our money on RLC and then slag the owners as our second and third choice aren't the same cut....

Of course there not gonna be...

I am all for signing the lad. Just saying we can't have everything.

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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 11.05pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger Everyone is keen to pay up and sign great players but still moan that our squad isn't deep. Sounds like we want our cake and to eat it. Let's spunk our money on RLC and then slag the owners as our second and third choice aren't the same cut.... Of course there not gonna be... I am all for signing the lad. Just saying we can't have everything. We have plenty of players in the squad who would be barely good enough for The Championship. They are a drain on our resources not a filip. Youth, up and coming from lower leagues and cheap imports should be the name of the game for the second XI but that would take some planning and foresight now. Should have been done years ago. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 12 Nov 17 11.05pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Everyone is keen to pay up and sign great players but still moan that our squad isn't deep.

Sounds like we want our cake and to eat it.

Let's spunk our money on RLC and then slag the owners as our second and third choice aren't the same cut....

Of course there not gonna be...

I am all for signing the lad. Just saying we can't have everything.

We have plenty of players in the squad who would be barely good enough for The Championship. They are a drain on our resources not a filip. Youth, up and coming from lower leagues and cheap imports should be the name of the game for the second XI but that would take some planning and foresight now. Should have been done years ago.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Petereagle Brockley 12 Nov 17 11.09pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Missed some good chances pre injury when clearly our best player and post injury being played away from the middle. The guy's only played 20 odd times. He is clearly quality, with a few areas needing improvement but this is the most competitive league. Get quality around him on his wavelength with defending on the def mid rather than our third and he can do the business. [Link] His stats are pretty good, but not outstanding yet. But at a bare minimum he is worth persisting with. When Benteke comes back his assists should further improve
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Brockley 12 Nov 17 11.09pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Missed some good chances pre injury when clearly our best player and post injury being played away from the middle. The guy's only played 20 odd times. He is clearly quality, with a few areas needing improvement but this is the most competitive league. Get quality around him on his wavelength with defending on the def mid rather than our third and he can do the business.

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His stats are pretty good, but not outstanding yet. But at a bare minimum he is worth persisting with. When Benteke comes back his assists should further improve

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 12 Nov 17 11.25pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 We have plenty of players in the squad who would be barely good enough for The Championship. They are a drain on our resources not a filip. Youth, up and coming from lower leagues and cheap imports should be the name of the game for the second XI but that would take some planning and foresight now. Should have been done years ago. Years ago we tried to attract players to play for a newly promoted club.. and had to play handsome wages to average players. those players are now a drain on us.. agreed. but at the time needs must. Oh and a load of s*** pardew signings. but in essences those players who aren;t good enough, are basically cheap players we took a chance on. Just like your saying we should do, buy lower league players and hope they turn out to be better than championship players. Sign more average players and hope they turn out better and hope the ones that don't can be moved on rather than weigh us down. In principle what you say is spot on. Buy cheap players that are gonna be good. Reality is every player you get wrong, you can't move on, without buying them out or taking a hit. But yeah it sounds simple.... hopefully our director of football can kick the squad in to shape as imo Pardew made a right hash of it. Edited by Goldfiinger (12 Nov 2017 11.27pm)
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Originally posted by Kermit8

Years ago we tried to attract players to play for a newly promoted club.. and had to play handsome wages to average players.

those players are now a drain on us.. agreed. but at the time needs must.

Oh and a load of s*** pardew signings.

but in essences those players who aren;t good enough, are basically cheap players we took a chance on. Just like your saying we should do, buy lower league players and hope they turn out to be better than championship players. Sign more average players and hope they turn out better and hope the ones that don't can be moved on rather than weigh us down.

In principle what you say is spot on. Buy cheap players that are gonna be good. Reality is every player you get wrong, you can't move on, without buying them out or taking a hit.

But yeah it sounds simple.... hopefully our director of football can kick the squad in to shape as imo Pardew made a right hash of it.

Edited by Goldfiinger (12 Nov 2017 11.27pm)

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 17 5.23am
8 apps....no assists, no goals. He's promising but the hype about him is far in advance of an actual sign of any end product at all. Hopefully his well thought of England debut will result in some actual changes to the stats above. If he ends this season with any favourable impression that even touches the current hype then of course there is no hope of signing him. Hype brings fantasy figures. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2017 5.25am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 17 5.23am

8 apps....no assists, no goals.

He's promising but the hype about him is far in advance of an actual sign of any end product at all.

Hopefully his well thought of England debut will result in some actual changes to the stats above.

If he ends this season with any favourable impression that even touches the current hype then of course there is no hope of signing him.

Hype brings fantasy figures.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2017 5.25am)

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dreamwaverider London 13 Nov 17 7.43am
Unless we climb the table which is not looking likely, he won't be staying.
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Unless we climb the table which is not looking likely, he won't be staying.

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CrazyBadger Ware 13 Nov 17 9.31am
From what I saw for England, first half he was pretty influential, one or two wonderful incisive passes. second half he seemed to lose direction. He received the ball well, made space with a clever touch, then passed it backwards or sideways. He's got huge talent, and is only young, but his game needs some work. Needs to start turning his performances into assists/goals. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 13 Nov 17 9.31am

From what I saw for England, first half he was pretty influential, one or two wonderful incisive passes.
second half he seemed to lose direction. He received the ball well, made space with a clever touch, then passed it backwards or sideways.

He's got huge talent, and is only young, but his game needs some work. Needs to start turning his performances into assists/goals.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER PORTIMAO 13 Nov 17 9.52am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Unless we climb the table which is not looking likely, he won't be staying. Even if we finish in the top 1o, i doubt he would even want to stay at Palace, he certainly will get offers from bigger clubs c
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Unless we climb the table which is not looking likely, he won't be staying.

Even if we finish in the top 1o, i doubt he would even want to stay at Palace, he certainly will get offers from bigger clubs
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chateauferret 13 Nov 17 11.31am
Porkair, please hold at area Delta and await clearance for landing runway 27 Romeo, over. Edited by chateauferret (13 Nov 2017 11.32am) ============ The Ferret ============
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Porkair, please hold at area Delta and await clearance for landing runway 27 Romeo, over.

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Lyons550 Shirley 13 Nov 17 11.56am
I thought we asked to have a 'first option' as part of the loan deal but the figure we were quoted effectively ruled us out so we didnt pursue it further. Based on the current ludicrous market he as to worth upwards of £20m on potential alone The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 13 Nov 17 11.56am

I thought we asked to have a 'first option' as part of the loan deal but the figure we were quoted effectively ruled us out so we didnt pursue it further.

Based on the current ludicrous market he as to worth upwards of £20m on potential alone

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lucashm 13 Nov 17 2.07pm
As a Chelsea fan ( hello btw) i can´t see a scenario where we sell him. He was made the poster boy for our academy, and has always been extremely highly rated at our club, which is why he is on extremely high wages(60-80k per week) for a youngster. People like to claim that we don´t give our youth players a chance which is true( although that´s largely the fault of the managers), but we also have shown that we are willing to integrate players that have been succesfull on loan with players like Christensen, who is from our academy, and has played a s*** ton this season, and has probably been our best CB after Azpi, and Courtois, and to an extent, even Moses. So if RLC continues to play like he is doing this season, i am 100% certain that he will be given a chance next season. Also, regarding his lack of end product, i think it´s worth pointing out that he should have at least 4-5 assists if your team knew how to finish, i mean, the chances Benteke wasted that Ruben put on a plate for him was simply ridiculous, and don´t forget that he also hit the post against City, so it´s not like he isn´t contributing
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13 Nov 17 2.07pm

As a Chelsea fan ( hello btw) i can´t see a scenario where we sell him. He was made the poster boy for our academy, and has always been extremely highly rated at our club, which is why he is on extremely high wages(60-80k per week) for a youngster.
People like to claim that we don´t give our youth players a chance which is true( although that´s largely the fault of the managers), but we also have shown that we are willing to integrate players that have been succesfull on loan with players like Christensen, who is from our academy, and has played a s*** ton this season, and has probably been our best CB after Azpi, and Courtois, and to an extent, even Moses.
So if RLC continues to play like he is doing this season, i am 100% certain that he will be given a chance next season.
Also, regarding his lack of end product, i think it´s worth pointing out that he should have at least 4-5 assists if your team knew how to finish, i mean, the chances Benteke wasted that Ruben put on a plate for him was simply ridiculous, and don´t forget that he also hit the post against City, so it´s not like he isn´t contributing

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