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Park Road 11 Nov 17 12.51pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I wasn't specifying Islamic terror at all.
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Stirlingsays 11 Nov 17 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I wasn't specifying Islamic terror at all. There are interesting discussions to be had on the different ways that Islamic terrorism would be vastly reduced. However when you refer to the IRA and what happened there you have to recognise that Irish republicanism and Islamism are two completely different worldviews with wholly different types of end games. This idea that we haven't tried talking isn't accurate. We spoke to the Taliban who would listen. Much money changed hands trying this strategy. IS for example have already addressed points like yours...titled deliberately to answer these questions, 'why we hate you', 'why we fight you'. This has probably been kept from you by the filtering that goes on by some media and most political groups who don't want you thinking about this stuff. Some people self filter because they don't want to know or reject it because it runs counter to their politics....People are free to their own politics but when this topic comes up and questions asked...people deserve to hear reality. By the way, we haven't resolved nothing in Ireland. We have an agreement with the majority of republicans and power sharing in NI....that's the extent of it.....people have been murdered since and security and intelligence services are still engaged.
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cryrst The garden of England 11 Nov 17 5.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There are interesting discussions to be had on the different ways that Islamic terrorism would be vastly reduced. However when you refer to the IRA and what happened there you have to recognise that Irish republicanism and Islamism are two completely different worldviews with wholly different types of end games. This idea that we haven't tried talking isn't accurate. We spoke to the Taliban who would listen. Much money changed hands trying this strategy. IS for example have already addressed points like yours...titled deliberately to answer these questions, 'why we hate you', 'why we fight you'. This has probably been kept from you by the filtering that goes on by some media and most political groups who don't want you thinking about this stuff. Some people self filter because they don't want to know or reject it because it runs counter to their politics....People are free to their own politics but when this topic comes up and questions asked...people deserve to hear reality. By the way, we haven't resolved nothing in Ireland. We have an agreement with the majority of republicans and power sharing in NI....that's the extent of it.....people have been murdered since and security and intelligence services are still engaged.
Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2017 2.52pm)
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Stirlingsays 11 Nov 17 6.04pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
This might be true for you and others but I haven't become used to it. I have two small boys growing up into this and I'm most definitely not immune to what awaits them. As I say, a lot of filtering goes on. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2017 6.06pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Nov 17 7.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This might be true for you and others but I haven't become used to it. I have two small boys growing up into this and I'm most definitely not immune to what awaits them. As I say, a lot of filtering goes on. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2017 6.06pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Nov 17 7.24pm | |
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Should never get 'used to it', it's vile, but also shouldn't let it affect you so much that you become irrational, paranoid and thus bigoted to others who have nothing to do with it and are just disgusted by it as much.
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cryrst The garden of England 11 Nov 17 9.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Should never get 'used to it', it's vile, but also shouldn't let it affect you so much that you become irrational, paranoid and thus bigoted to others who have nothing to do with it and are just disgusted by it as much. My point Kermit and Stirling
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Stirlingsays 12 Nov 17 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
When my children are adults the Islamic percentage within the country will probably be around 15 percentage as it has been doubling every decade. The secularists among them are fine. Still, with that increase the number of radicals will....well at least be double what it is now. I'm not paranoid, that's just logical. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2017 11.43am)
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Stirlingsays 12 Nov 17 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Should never get 'used to it', it's vile, but also shouldn't let it affect you so much that you become irrational, paranoid and thus bigoted to others who have nothing to do with it and are just disgusted by it as much. Typical left wing strawman response. Islamic reformers have a lot of criticism for your stance here. You should listen to them.
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Stirlingsays 12 Nov 17 11.35am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
My point Kermit and Stirling Hopefully you will be around in twenty years and be able to judge if your IRA/Islamism comparison made any sense.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Nov 17 12.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When my children are adults the Islamic percentage within the country will probably be around 15 percentage as it has been doubling every decade. The secularists among them are fine. Still, with that increase the number of radicals will....well at least be double what it is now. I'm not paranoid, that's just logical.
Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2017 11.43am) The loopy left doesn't do logical. They would rather shove their heads up their own arses and hope it all goes away. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Nov 2017 12.12pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 12 Nov 17 12.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Hopefully you will be around in twenty years and be able to judge if your IRA/Islamism comparison made any sense.
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