The problem with premier palace fans summed up in one post.

Look, recruitment was poor this season both in the coaching staff and players. We need to reflect and move on.

But...survival in championship, followed by promotion, a cup final and a prolonged period in the premier league suggests he has done pretty well to be fair.

A minority tell me I shouldn't look back at the past. Sorry, I can't help it. I remember the euphoria of hillsborough being quickly replaced with anxiety as there was a real chance we'd fold. What cpfc2010 have done since is nothing short of remarkable and I for one am grateful, even if this is the year we drop out the top flight for a bit.

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

I have a 'sinking feeling' about this season. Rather like 2004-5.
There are morsels of reward, much like AJ getting an England call-up, and Kiraly shipping 5 against Manyoo and getting MOTM.
Reminds me of "Thumbs-up Pardew", just before he got fked off

I disengage, I turn the page.

Really? I turn up and sing constantly while I see mute faces around me. I left on Saturday with a very croaky voice and all of Sunday. How many others proclaiming to be ultra loyal to Parish or whatever their stance is can say the same? I'd say I'm a pretty good fan, or supporter, which is what Jordan said we needed to be through this.

Imo Parish was pretty excellent for 5 years, even if anybody blames him for Freedman and Pulis walking, which I didn't. There are a few exceptions for when I feel a chairman has good reason to step in. Unsure of how he did so v Pulis apart from Zaha but Freedman was showing a reluctance to risk his reputation in Zaha's last season when rumour has it Freedman was unhappy Zaha was likely to be sold to quite rightly balance the books. Bolasie, Delaney and motifs came in, Freedman finally released the shackles and we realised our potential at that level.

He's salvaged some pretty frustrating manager outcomes from good and bad ones excellently also, albeit if they were readily available and we were the only club available to them, plus obviously suitable on the pitch. He still had to commit to them.

Last season's summer window was okay. Some said it was excellent as soon as Benteke joined and all our troubles were over. Fact was some more had been created, or known about for 8 months, and not addressed right then. Then there's this summer, some more of that and the winding forward of the clock beyond where it didn't work before, with either it being impossible on our budget, or a poor window and a lack of understanding between manager and chairman on problably everything.

Fantastic, excellent 5 years for what we are and can do. Disappointing for 2 years with repeated, highly costly errors that are having knock on effects, creating more issues and problems and more expensive sticky plasters. It can't be easy doing this at this level but also something or someone has got to make the obvious problem we have now so imperative we get someone in to make it not the potentially damaging situation it can turn out to be. Also never having a squad assembled before game 3 is a big handicap that'll fail at some point.

COYP

I hope you're right, and that's of course if it's financially sensible due to survival situation. But the last summer had to be corrected with an over inflated spending spree on an extra player than we would've originally needed and both of those LBs at top whack for their services in fees and wages, because it wasn't done when it should've been. That's not having a better window, that's throwing money to correct it, that costs the next window.

If you just accept, recognise and ensure a manager needs to work with his squad for a bit over the summer rather than the international break after match 3 and you add nice to have players rather than highly necessary players on deadline day then you'll minimise a lot of these ongoing, knock on problems. A bit of scouting in the 8 months you've known about highly necessary signings is something we can't have been doing much of it you look at who we've pinned our hopes
on over recent summers.

COYP

Even if we are relegated we will look back with fond memories of 2012-17 - thanks, Steve and the rest- but also tinged with 'what went wrong in the end?' and 'all that money....gone'

If he had realised his limitations and passed over the reins say in 2015 to someone who was more able to run the football club and utilise its huge income better then his record would have been more or less faultless.

But the last two and a half years have been, from the top, an era of hot air, some bad decisions, repeated mistakes, neglect of the club's infrastructure, a bit of delusion and an ego that is not helping to push the club forward.

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Because Allardyce got the sack from England and Pulis didn't mind a well paid six month temp job.

We flounder every season before Xmas. That's not a coincidence. It's consistent bad planning and dubious decision making from the top.

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