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G4S and Serco to get powers of arrest?
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 Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 Oct 17 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Another irrational sweeping lefty piece of codswallop, to be added to the "Tin Foil Hat wearer" hall of fame.
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hedgehog50  Croydon 03 Oct 17 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Definitions of "tax income": Tory - money we can give to the private sector irrespective of the level of service then provided to the country. Labour - money we can spend to improve the lot of the country. All the rhetoric around terror, immigration, security and patriotism is the smokescreen for this core dogma. If you give / gave the Tories your vote on any of those smokescreen issues, the ongoing dismantling of the country is on you. Were you around in the 70s when tax payers' money was poured into nationalised companies faster than an alcoholic poring whisky down their throat? This was to prop up their inefficient, over-staffed cra*py operations and fund the massive wage rises demanded by the comrades in the unions, accompanied by endless strikes, who knew they were tapping into a bottomless pit of funds. Still they did bring Thatcher to power.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 03 Oct 17 1.41pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yawn, there have been three elections which have all given power to the conservatives, and still their 'fiscal remedies' have been as effective as Labours spending plans. Just an indication of the scale of the mess Labour left. But the Socialist propaganda machine was soon up and running telling the young and thick how evil the Tories are.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 03 Oct 17 1.57pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Another corking response that gets to the heart of the matter with no whatabouttery whatsoever. Good work
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| Lyons550 Shirley 03 Oct 17 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yawn, there have been three elections which have all given power to the conservatives, and still their 'fiscal remedies' have been as effective as Labours spending plans. 'tis very very true
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 17 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Just an indication of the scale of the mess Labour left. But the Socialist propaganda machine was soon up and running telling the young and thick how evil the Tories are. Yeah well if you just listen to the people who only have excuses, you'll end up in that kind of situation - where no one is responsible for their actions and decisions.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 17 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
HMRC does as well, but they're legally agents of the state. Technically, everyone is eligible to make a citizens arrest - but only employees of the state should be able to arrest an individual, and deny them their freedom under the very specific laws and regulation laid out in British law. Having corporate entities arresting individuals is a conflict of interests.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 03 Oct 17 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
HMRC does as well, but they're legally agents of the state. Technically, everyone is eligible to make a citizens arrest - but only employees of the state should be able to arrest an individual, and deny them their freedom under the very specific laws and regulation laid out in British law. Having corporate entities arresting individuals is a conflict of interests.
Latterly (in the last 15yrs) they've handed the responsibility of the 'arrest' over to the Police however, since one of the team was killed when trying to do so in the early noughties. They still have the mandate to do so should it be required
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Oct 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Were you around in the 70s when tax payers' money was poured into nationalised companies faster than an alcoholic poring whisky down their throat? This was to prop up their inefficient, over-staffed cra*py operations and fund the massive wage rises demanded by the comrades in the unions, accompanied by endless strikes, who knew they were tapping into a bottomless pit of funds. Still they did bring Thatcher to power. How would you describe the subsidies privatised industries get from tax payers money?
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 becky over the moon 03 Oct 17 2.22pm |
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Maybe if the 'real' police didn't spend so much of their time chasing shadows in foreign countries (a la Maddie) or dealing with all those hurt feelings crimes, then this wouldn't be deemed necessary.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 17 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by becky
Maybe if the 'real' police didn't spend so much of their time chasing shadows in foreign countries (a la Maddie) or dealing with all those hurt feelings crimes, then this wouldn't be deemed necessary. Maybe if their numbers hadn't been reduced, their career package undermined and their recruitment spannered, we'd have enough police to do their jobs.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 17 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How would you describe the subsidies privatised industries get from tax payers money? Like G4S, ATOS and Serco, for instance - who are arguably companies with a very poor performance standard, wracked with controversies, who keep getting funded and paid for subpar performances for outsourced services, that would have been scandals had they occurred under government / local authority ownership
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