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 Stirlingsays  24 Sep 17 9.39am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Whoops. Of course he is. I put it down to only being half awake but I still don't know who Lawrence is which I put down to having concentrated on division 2 this year owing to the team I follow being relegated due to their financial bail out Dan Lawrence of Essex. This guy has the required ticker to make the step up....which as we have seen with recent picks is an issue. Ball is a reasonably good bowler but I've been very impressed with Porter.....If Wood doesn't make the trip due to fitness, Ball would have a shout. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2017 9.43am)
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Sep 17 10.01am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If Wood doesn't make the trip due to fitness, Ball would have a shout. I'm guessing that for Wood to make the cut Durham would have to bowl first on Monday and Woody would need to perform well with no after effects otherwise he may be deemed too much of a risk and will join his Durham team mate Graham Onions in having one excellent season for England with the rest of his career wrecked by injury
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Sep 17 10.03am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Dan Lawrence of Essex. This guy has the required ticker to make the step up....which as we have seen with recent picks is an issue. The England Lions are also touring Australia this winter so anyone performing well could be called up at short notice if needed and this could be Dan Lawrence's route into the main team along with Mason Crane
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| Stirlingsays 24 Sep 17 10.13am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The England Lions are also touring Australia this winter so anyone performing well could be called up at short notice if needed and this could be Dan Lawrence's route into the main team along with Mason Crane Yep, tis true. What's your squad?
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| chris123 hove actually 24 Sep 17 10.32am |
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For me I'm more bothered about how we play - all this play your natural game and the shorter forms, has meant many of ours guys have forgotten how to reeally knuckle down, and be defensive when needs must.
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Sep 17 10.55am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What's your squad? To be honest I'm not sure. Looking at your squad I would have Woakes in instead of Porter as I think the selectors will too but I'm not convinced that Hales can cut it in a Test team against aggressive Aussie bowling. He may wallop the ball all over the place in limited overs cricket but Test Matches don't have the same fielding restrictions or batsmen friendly rules and I think that likes of Starc and Cummings will eat him for breakfast. I wonder whether Malan did enough in the last Test to squeeze into the side
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| Stirlingsays 24 Sep 17 11.01am |
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Originally posted by chris123
For me I'm more bothered about how we play - all this play your natural game and the shorter forms, has meant many of ours guys have forgotten how to reeally knuckle down, and be defensive when needs must. There's something to that. I think it's also fair that some batsman are naturally aggressive as well. But it's definitely the case that front line batsman play more aggressively against the moving ball than before....which isn't that great for most of their averages. There are only so many Gowers out there that can do that and still average quite high.....though it has to be said that Gower's test average is quite a bit higher than his county......He was picked on ability rather than stats....I suppose like I feel Lawrance and Crane should be. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2017 11.02am)
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| Stirlingsays 24 Sep 17 11.08am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
To be honest I'm not sure. Looking at your squad I would have Woakes in instead of Porter as I think the selectors will too but I'm not convinced that Hales can cut it in a Test team against aggressive Aussie bowling. He may wallop the ball all over the place in limited overs cricket but Test Matches don't have the same fielding restrictions or batsmen friendly rules and I think that likes of Starc and Cummings will eat him for breakfast. I wonder whether Malan did enough in the last Test to squeeze into the side I see Hales as good against fast bowling a little suspect against short pitched but I think he's come on since then.....But playing him at five I just see him as a better option than Malan.....thanks to stubborn and ultimately poor picks this summer we have a lack of proven test batting options. Woakes is a third seamer and Porter a front line one. So I've picked him on that score.
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| chris123 hove actually 24 Sep 17 11.14am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There's something to that. I think it's also fair that some batsman are naturally aggressive as well. But it's definitely the case that front line batsman play more aggressively against the moving ball than before....which isn't that great for most of their averages. There are only so many Gowers out there that can do that and still average quite high.....though it has to be said that Gower's test average is quite a bit higher than his county......He was picked on ability rather than stats....I suppose like I feel Lawrance and Crane should be. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2017 11.02am) You can play like Gower if you've got a Boycott or a Gooch the other end and for all his mastery Gower could be defensive too - not too long though before a little waft outside off.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Sep 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by chris123
You can play like Gower if you've got a Boycott or a Gooch the other end and for all his mastery Gower could be defensive too - not too long though before a little waft outside off. Late Gooch yeah....Boycott was an exceptional talent that doesn't come around that often.....I'm hoping that Hameed is the modern version. Considering how Gower batted it's a bit surprising that he batted as the number three....but an average of 44 at a time when pitches were less batter friendly says something I suppose. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2017 11.24am)
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Sep 17 11.28am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I see Hales as good against fast bowling a little suspect against short pitched but I think he's come on since then.....But playing him at five I just see him as a better option than Malan..... He's had a good summer in four day cricket but against poor bowling. His double hundred was against the might of Derbyshire who were the team with the least number of bowling points in division 2
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| Stirlingsays 24 Sep 17 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
He's had a good summer in four day cricket but against poor bowling. His double hundred was against the might of Derbyshire who were the team with the least number of bowling points in division 2 Yep, fair enough...but he's done well all the same. I just see him as a better option to others. We don't have that many stand outs in the middle order at the moment.
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