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Mstrobez 31 Aug 17 10.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Tommyp151211
What's amateurish about securing your number one target? Several other clubs have failed to get theirs.... It's amateurish because it is quite clearly out of our budget and at the expense of the entire squad. We severely lack depth and are scraping the barrel in other important areas for the sake of this deal. The fact we were unable to identify one target besides Sakho to ensure other key areas were sufficiently strengthened is amateurish. I'm sure everyone will disagree it is, because Sakho is supposedly the only good defender in world football, but in my opinion it's poor. Whether it's the fault of Parish for getting too involved, or Frank for being too indecisive is anyone's guess.
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black eagle. south croydon. 31 Aug 17 10.53pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
If you've got a clock that tells you the time is 13 o'clock in the morning I'd take it back to the shop, if I were you. Ha ha i did correct myself after original txt.
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 31 Aug 17 10.56pm | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
To be fair we have t signed anyone yet Apart from:
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 31 Aug 17 10.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's amateurish because it is quite clearly out of our budget and at the expense of the entire squad. We severely lack depth and are scraping the barrel in other important areas for the sake of this deal. The fact we were unable to identify one target besides Sakho to ensure other key areas were sufficiently strengthened is amateurish. I'm sure everyone will disagree it is, because Sakho is supposedly the only good defender in world football, but in my opinion it's poor. Whether it's the fault of Parish for getting too involved, or Frank for being too indecisive is anyone's guess. Can't please all of the people all of the time. If he brings back the confidence to Wayne and the backline like he did last season then in my book he's worth every penny. Even if it means the squad is light elsewhere. But lets not forget the other signings we have made.
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Mstrobez 31 Aug 17 11.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger
Can't please all of the people all of the time. If he brings back the confidence to Wayne and the backline like he did last season then in my book he's worth every penny. Even if it means the squad is light elsewhere. But lets not forget the other signings we have made. There's a difference between the squad being light and it literally being empty of any obvious sufficient quality. Hennessey hasn't been good enough for years. Benteke gets injured and at this moment in time our worst case scenario is we don't have another striker and best case we have Niasse. That's without mentioning an injury to Wilf or Townsend and having only championship quality/academy level players as back up. I agree we need someone to bring some confidence to the back line but I still believe our scouting network has failed miserably in not being able to identify one single other quality target for the sake of the entire squad and the approach is naive and unimaginative. I am fully aware this won't be a popular opinion though.
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 31 Aug 17 11.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
There's a difference between the squad being light and it literally being empty of any obvious sufficient quality. Hennessey hasn't been good enough for years. Benteke gets injured and at this moment in time our worst case scenario is we don't have another striker and best case we have Niasse. That's without mentioning an injury to Wilf or Townsend and having only championship quality/academy level players as back up. I agree we need someone to bring some confidence to the back line but I still believe our scouting network has failed miserably in not being able to identify one single other quality target for the sake of the entire squad and the approach is naive and unimaginative. I am fully aware this won't be a popular opinion though.
Do these not count as they weren't done today? The club have limited funds and have chosen to spend the bulk on Sakho. You might not like that, thats fine. But its not like we haven't spent our budget this window like wise in Jan. Sounds like our scouting network has identified a young danish keeper and hopefully he'll be signed as well. Also seems like our scouting network have identified Niasse as a potentially decent cheapish signing. You seem to want us to sign cheap players and then scoff at the ones we are trying to sign.. I don't get that? If these two players turn out to be decent then they've done exactly as you wish. LoftusCheek and Fosu-Mensah both quality signings and yet you bemoan us not identifying good deals? You say the squad is light of any obvious quality> ? Cabaye 5 of those weren't Palace players 24 months ago, and we very much expect a 6th and possible the best to be added shortly. I'd say we're progressing... Some will never be happy though, Edited by Goldfiinger (31 Aug 2017 11.25pm)
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Mstrobez 31 Aug 17 11.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger
Do these not count as they weren't done today? The club have limited funds and have chosen to spend the bulk on Sakho. You might not like that, thats fine. But its not like we haven't spent our budget this window like wise in Jan. Sounds like our scouting network has identified a young danish keeper and hopefully he'll be signed as well. Also seems like our scouting network have identified Niasse as a potentially decent cheapish signing. You seem to want us to sign cheap players and then scoff at the ones we are trying to sign.. I don't get that? If these two players turn out to be decent then they've done exactly as you wish. LoftusCheek and Fosu-Mensah both quality signings and yet you bemoan us not identifying good deals? Dry your eyes, the clubs doing its best.
Being unable to identify a single centre back other than Sakho is amateurish, It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it without being told to dry my eyes because I've been consistent with it throughout. None of the players you've mentioned address our other problems and I'd be highly surprised if the latest have been made by the manager. That's not right but I guess the majority hate him as well so are probably glad. Re wanting to sign cheap players and scoff off the others, not too sure what that's supposed to mean - I personally would've preferred a Wimmer/Martins Indi with Riedewald developing in the background and making cameo appearances and use the extra money (and time) on an attacking player with a different style to Benteke (such as a Munir or Vietto maybe, someone of that ilk) and a goalkeeper that will actually replace Hennessey rather than Niasse and a Nottingham Forest target who we probably wont sign anyway. That's without mentioning other areas that look worryingly thin as well. Just my opinion, I love Sakho as much as the next guy but I think the gung ho approach to signing him in a very light and struggling squad could prove costly. As I said that just my opinion Edited by Mstrobez (31 Aug 2017 11.22pm)
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spartakev2 Anerley 31 Aug 17 11.27pm | |
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Fosu-mensa And wilf on a new contract Possibly amother keeper if it can be done on time.. I'll settle for that..
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 31 Aug 17 11.33pm | |
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I don't think its mistake to spend our budget on a player who so clearly made such an immense difference to our defence and keeper. I think it helps the whole team even when he was injured the guys performed better than they had in months. So for me I'm hugely happy we've signed him. Of course you can have the opinion that we should have spent money elsewhere but i'd point to the loan signings we have signed as adding extra quality. And i wouldn't right off the other players we might be signing as not good enough without them even kicking a ball. I would have loved us to sign Munir as well but not at the expense of missing out on Sakho. Martins would have probably been good as a centre back but I very much doubt he'd have lifted the whole team as i expect Sakhos signing will. Sakho has cost us £24m so thats literally one £15m centre half plus £9m change. That doesn't go far to fix all our problems and certainly wouldn't have accounted for the players you wanted. Most clubs sell to then strengthen and its really really good to see us keep hold of all our talent.. But yeah that means we have a budget thats then limited, Sakho i truly expect to raise everyones game, more so than Indis + Munir would have. Edited by Goldfiinger (31 Aug 2017 11.35pm)
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 31 Aug 17 11.36pm | |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
Fosu-mensa And wilf on a new contract Possibly amother keeper if it can be done on time.. I'll settle for that.. Yup with no one sold !
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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 31 Aug 17 11.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
There's a difference between the squad being light and it literally being empty of any obvious sufficient quality. Hennessey hasn't been good enough for years. Benteke gets injured and at this moment in time our worst case scenario is we don't have another striker and best case we have Niasse. That's without mentioning an injury to Wilf or Townsend and having only championship quality/academy level players as back up. I agree we need someone to bring some confidence to the back line but I still believe our scouting network has failed miserably in not being able to identify one single other quality target for the sake of the entire squad and the approach is naive and unimaginative. I am fully aware this won't be a popular opinion though. No it won't be popular. For too long we have bought squad players that are no better than those we have. In Sakho, TFM and RLC they are clearly better than what we have already. Given that we have kept our best players we should be happy that we are in a stronger position player wise than when the window opened.
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wainesworld west wickham 31 Aug 17 11.42pm | |
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I think Sakho is an excellent signing although for 4 million more should have been done pre season. Loftus cheek and fonso whateverhisname are also good deals. So if all true we have spent around 43 million. No where near what we habe earnt in the last year. How mich did we get for finishing where we did in the league and this years tv rights
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