Nice to see some positivity on the Hol. I am someone who fears the damage is done though. Once rumours like this surface it's hard to recover, not just because of the poor results but a breakdown in relationship with the fans etc. Extreme scrutiny on every minor decision he'll make now with what is clearly a group of owners who have very itchy fingers at the moment.

Will be interesting to see how much business we do over the next few days. Sakho looking more and more likely, but if that is at the expense of strengthening the squad as a whole i think I'll be in the minority who's actually very disappointed with that as I find it completely amateur that the only target we could identify is Sakho. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a subject that Frank/Parish have had words about. I did say in the summer to a friend that as much as I love Sakho, I don't think we should be trying to force the deal onto any incoming manager and the signings must fit around his vision for the club.

We're the Arthur over ere!

Ridiculous outcome ... FDB is clearly out of his depth and it's pointless retaining him to save face. Get rid and move on ... the team needs sorting asap.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Why not? He's crap!

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Henry, as I've said before he needs to be given time.

And as I've also said before the vast majority of the media speculation is nonsense.

This has all spread from a poor perspective of our new fans who think we are better than we actually are.

From my point of view FDB has done one thing wrong since he's come to the club and that's making JP captain. I can only assume FDB has bought into the 'he's one of our own mentality' and got that wrong but is that his fault? Not yet in my opinion.

Apart from that, thus far he's not done a lot wrong. He's spoken very well of the club and of the fans and I believe he wants us to like him and 'us' as a club has not reciprocated that.

Who are we to judge Reidweld) after one game, 1. People saying he's no good and 2.'oh let's try him in midfield'. It's bollocks. I'm fed up with reading stuff about who should play where and 'what if we do this? for example.

However, as short term history shows, us as fans tend to turn on our managers now matter how good the media tells us our fans are. That's a problem that is embedded with our fanbase now unfortunately.

"Led to believe"? If he'd watched a few games he'd have seen exactly how good they are and are not. Did we say to him, "Look, I know Puncheon goes round and round in circles and passes backwards all the time and puts all his set pieces into row W, but he's actually Neymar in disguise"?

If he's misunderstood the capabilities of our players then that's his fault. No, I think the problem is that he thought *he* was better than he was and instead of changing things safely and progressively he could be Billy Big Bollocks and transform us into Barcelona overnight. Pardew might have been a decent manager if he'd realised that that wasn't working and gone back to what would work; let us hope de Boer takes on board the bollocking he received today.

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He's completely underestimated task and capability of our opponents and told the world his tactics. Almost unbelievable arrogance IMO. Yesterday's meeting was the bare minimum required.

This is largely the group of players that won six and dew one of their last twelve games in 2017-18 which included the big six and league champions once Allardyce had got fitness levels where they needed to be.

SP's only managerial mistake since 2013 was Warnock (under difficult circumstances) and giving Pardew a bit too long when he'd clearly taken his eye of the ball and lost the plot.