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iheartcpfc SE25 24 Aug 17 3.07am | |
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NIMBY's are the worst people in the world. Imagine being that much of a curtain twitching sad b******
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The Dolphin 24 Aug 17 6.24am | |
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That is an impressive list of concerns and objections many of which are perfectly valid.
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auk 24 Aug 17 1.30pm | |
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The application was determined by a sub-committee consisting of nine councillors. Unfortunately, the Advertiser report does not reveal the voting figure. As an alternative to lodging an appeal, the club has the option of submitting a revised application which could address the residents' concerns. It could also both lodge the appeal AND submit a revised application. The club seems to have handled this matter clumsily. It should certainly have held a consultation exercise with all residents. It should also have lobbied the councillors who sit on that particular planning sub-committee in advance of the debate.
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The Dolphin 24 Aug 17 1.37pm | |
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I agree with you.
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Pierre Purley 24 Aug 17 4.07pm | |
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Agreed This seems not to have been seen from the residents point of view at all and handled badly by the club.
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auk 24 Aug 17 5.15pm | |
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It's a shame that the Advertiser wasn't able to send a reporter to the meeting. In my experience, councillors sometimes 'freeze' if there's a chance that their comments/how they voted might be reported in the Press. This prompts them to abstain. A couple of abstentions might have swayed the vote in Palace's favour. As I understand it, only five residents lodged objections and another sent a message to the council in support. Palace engaged Rachel Jones of a very expensive Westminster -based consultancy, Simply-planning, to process the application, with support from Haydn Jones of Worthing-based architectural firm, Saville Jones. One of them would have been granted the opportunity to make a verbal presentation to the councillors on the planning meeting, and I sincerely hope one did so. Alternatively, Steve Parish could have made the presentation. With his communication skills, that could have secured planning approval. I fear Palace have wasted a huge amount of time and money on an application which was, in the final analysis, probably botched. If the club does decide to appeal/submit a revised application, it needs to be much more thorough in its approach. Nothing must be left to chance. Edited by auk (24 Aug 2017 5.17pm) Edited by auk (24 Aug 2017 5.18pm)
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bexleydave Barnehurst 25 Aug 17 7.26am | |
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Originally posted by auk
As I understand it, only five residents lodged objections and another sent a message to the council in support.
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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kev64 Cambs 25 Aug 17 7.44am | |
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I would of been more surprised if the planning sub committee passed it first time, none of these councillors would want to put their name to this. With the experienced team 2010 have involved it's all smoke and mirrors, they will address the 'concerns hold full public consultations and wheel out the pr band wagon. The fuax suprise is all in the game. Eventually it will go to a full planning committee with all the i dotted and t s crossed.
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The Dolphin 25 Aug 17 10.20am | |
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My experience with Councillors nowadays is that they often back the Residents to carry local favour but in planning terms schemes get through once the Appeal gets heard as technically there is nothing wrong.
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Lyons550 Shirley 25 Aug 17 11.25am | |
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i know that the club are still looking at alternative sites, so i'm not too sure how bothered they will be by this. I'd still like them to approach Bromley about Beckenham place park...that would be an ideal setting / location, now that the golf course has gone, due to the lack of funds available to keep it going.
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auk 25 Aug 17 12.08pm | |
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The planning case officer for Bromley Council is Stephanie Gardiner who recommended that the application should be approved, but her recommendation was rejected by the plans sub-committee. The councillors who made the refusal decision were: Lydia Buttinger (committee chair), Peter Dean, Nicky Dykes, Simon Fawthrop, Russell Mellor, Tony Owen, Most of the Copers Cope Road residents didn't bother to submit comments, so they probably didn't care one way or another. The most vigorous opponent was Richard Fielder who describes himself as chairman of Copers Cope Road Action Group (but that might just consist of himself). The official refusal notice states: "The proposal would result in inappropriate development on Metropolitan Open Land as a result of the overdevelopment of the Palace submitted the application in June 2015, so it has taken more than two years to reach the decision stage - plus a huge amount of money in consultancy, The potential prize is far too great important for the club to walk away, so it would be surprising if it does not lodge either an appeal or a revised application (or both). The trouble with the appeal process is that it could take another 18 months or longer before it heard by a Planning Directorate inspector. The club might be well advised to contact the opponents, asking them to suggest proposals that might prompt them to withdraw their objections. That might lead to a situation where the club can lodge an appeal with an assurance from Bromley Council that it will not be contested. The development will then be able to proceed.
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Stuk Top half 25 Aug 17 12.12pm | |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
My experience with Councillors nowadays is that they often back the Residents to carry local favour but in planning terms schemes get through once the Appeal gets heard as technically there is nothing wrong. And tax payers. They'd have wasted an enormous amount of council funds and time too.
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