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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jul 17 10.47am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

No,predictable in that he has a boring and silly pop at you,even when he actually agrees with you on the issue in question

Yawn!

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jul 17 10.58am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

A flaming disaster. Opens the floodgates for ambulance chasing lawyers. Do you have any idea how many Tribunals there used to be before the fee? 200,000. No other country I have worked in had even a tenth of the volume. If you have a good case you get your fee money back anyway.

Edited by Mapletree (26 Jul 2017 11.10pm)

But you don't go into a tribunal knowing that you will win. The fact that you could end up out of pocket would be enough to stop some people pursuing a claim.
I totally understand the counter argument but the disciplinary procedure is regularly abused by employers using constructive dismissal, so there has to be a fair and unbiased hearing for employees with no barriers.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jul 17 1.30pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

A flaming disaster. Opens the floodgates for ambulance chasing lawyers. Do you have any idea how many Tribunals there used to be before the fee? 200,000. No other country I have worked in had even a tenth of the volume. If you have a good case you get your fee money back anyway.

Edited by Mapletree (26 Jul 2017 11.10pm)

If I remember rightly, the costs awards for tribunal are quite small.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Jul 17 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

If I remember rightly, the costs awards for tribunal are quite small.

Where do you remember that from Jamie.

As an employer I have had quite large costs awarded to me for vexatious claims.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Jul 17 3.47pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But you don't go into a tribunal knowing that you will win. The fact that you could end up out of pocket would be enough to stop some people pursuing a claim.
I totally understand the counter argument but the disciplinary procedure is regularly abused by employers using constructive dismissal, so there has to be a fair and unbiased hearing for employees with no barriers.

You got any idea how much it costs the Courts to process 200,000 claims. And employers to defend them. Back when claims were at that level almost all were Mickey Mouse. These days there is always an angle to blackmail a perfectly innocent employer, there are multiple protected categories. For example I can be accused of discriminating against you because you are young (unlikely in your case). Almost all discrimination elements were found to be without merit. That madness had gone, looks like it is coming back. The lawyers and barking mad fight-their-own-shadow people get their days in Court again. And I say days, even daft claims take three or four.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jul 17 3.56pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Where do you remember that from Jamie.

As an employer I have had quite large costs awarded to me for vexatious claims.

My 101 Introduction to Law. Employment Tribunals don't generally have costs awarded to the respondent.

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

You got any idea how much it costs the Courts to process 200,000 claims. And employers to defend them. Back when claims were at that level almost all were Mickey Mouse. These days there is always an angle to blackmail a perfectly innocent employer, there are multiple protected categories. For example I can be accused of discriminating against you because you are young (unlikely in your case). Almost all discrimination elements were found to be without merit. That madness had gone, looks like it is coming back. The lawyers and barking mad fight-their-own-shadow people get their days in Court again. And I say days, even daft claims take three or four.

I understand your problem. We have created a society where people can cry foul for virtually anything and that was foolish. Even so, the charge was unfair and what is perhaps required is a review of what can be taken to tribunal and what should be dealt with at a less formal and expensive level of arbitration.

 

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