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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jul 17 1.45pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Bloody Brexit - is there no end to the crimes, torture and murder it is responsible for - they will be ploughing up turnips without anaesthetic next. What we want is more of those nice halal butchers. Surely, in this day and age, we have the technology to have video messages built into the packaging. When you go to buy your chicken it could tell you" "Hi, I was brought up in an open chicken-run and spent my days happily pecking worms to death"...
Astonishingly it took you two sentences to deflect on to Muslims - Must try harder
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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jul 17 1.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Harpo
And it will get worse. I was speaking to a farmer yesterday, and he reported that the nation's vetinary practices are being hoovered up by the yanks. Which means that the US pharma companies will not be very far away. What do nationalist think of this?
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Midlands Eagle 18 Jul 17 2.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The obvious point here is that this sort of intensive farming is a result of demand. The bigger the population grows, the more demand for food. The more demand for meat you mean not food. Nearly one third of India's 1.3 billion inhabitants manage to get by without eating meat but far too many Brits can't cope without meat in their microwaved meals
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hedgehog50 Croydon 18 Jul 17 3.11pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Astonishingly it took you two sentences to deflect on to Muslims - Must try harder It is relevant as we are discussing cruelty in the use of animals for food.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 18 Jul 17 3.12pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
What do nationalist think of this? Who is this farmer who knows about the US plot to take over UK vets?
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jul 17 3.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The more demand for meat you mean not food. Nearly one third of India's 1.3 billion inhabitants manage to get by without eating meat but far too many Brits can't cope without meat in their microwaved meals So eating less meat is the answer to the population problem?
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jul 17 3.23pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
It is relevant as we are discussing cruelty in the use of animals for food. No, that cruelty doesn't count because it's religion innit.
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Part Time James 18 Jul 17 3.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So eating less meat is the answer to the population problem? Why don't we eat each other? I don't mean you and I, I mean as a people. Or am I stating the bleeding obvious solution to two big headaches?
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Part Time James 18 Jul 17 3.27pm | |
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Oh and of course giving up eating meat would solve population problems. Have you seen how much of the countryside cows take up? That's space you could build a council estate on.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jul 17 3.30pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
It is relevant as we are discussing cruelty in the use of animals for food. But aren't you deflecting rather than discussing, by saying the point of discussing animal cruelty is invalid because of Halal / Kosher. Personally, you can discuss the cruelty inherent in systems of mass meat production without needing to discuss Halal. Cruelty is cruelty.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jul 17 3.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Why don't we eat each other? I don't mean you and I, I mean as a people. Or am I stating the bleeding obvious solution to two big headaches? Cannibalism is fraught with dangers that eating meat from a different species isn't, due the tendency for diseases not to cross species. Mass consumption of humans, would in fact generate all manner of disease and disorders that would make inbreeding look tame. Of course we could feed people to animals. That would keep the population down, decrease the meat industry and deal with unwanted children. Edited by jamiemartin721 (18 Jul 2017 3.33pm)
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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jul 17 3.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No, that cruelty doesn't count because it's religion innit. It is arguably though a different question, as its a moral argument about the absurdity of religion vs the morality of consumerism.
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