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MrCParrot Flag Taunton 30 Jun 17 6.58am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

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I should think we'd have a lot of competition at £20. Bargain....

Not quite but the valuation does seem real
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Not sure that he's different enough though, I'd like to see someone with Vardy's pace for instance

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 30 Jun 17 12.45pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

I would predict that Ward will be back up to him very soon.

Originally posted by Petereagle

There are now a couple of rumours supporting Palace interest in Tete. Would be great to give at the very least strong competition to Ward
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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 30 Jun 17 12.53pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Forget about Zoet, he is no upgrade on Wayne at all and if you want a Dutch goalie offload Stekelenburg from Everton. He has more talent in his left pink then Zoet in both hands!

Would be interesting to see if v Ginkel could cut it. No surprise he failed at Chelski but did not set the world alight when at Stoke either did he. he is class when you see him in the Dutch league, but pace is so much lower there it would be a big question mark.

I realise I sound rather cynical about my fellow countrymen but I really hope Veltman will not come to us. Too errant prone and would not be sure he could cope with the physicality of the game in the PL. As for Riedewald, I just cannot see rumors about Chelski being true other then him being a a potential profit maker after loaning out. He has never hold a regular place in the Ajax defense and though that also counts for Tete I think he is far less suitable for English football then the latter. And unless the boys are at the end of their contracts forget about getting promising players on the cheap overhere. They see the ridiculous fees for very average players too and will up their market price accordingly. Though its seems that Karsdorp went to Roma for 17m euro's. Would have liked to see him with us.


Originally posted by MrCParrot

There are some interesting names being banded around
GK Vorm isn't really very exciting but a good backup to Wayne if and when Steeeeve leaves
More exciting would be Zoet out of contract in 2019 might be worth a punt.

RB Tete I have seen as a suggestion, completely agree he would be a great signing, perhaps we could intercept Karsdorp to Roma move?

At CB I see that Chelski are interested in Riedewald but the young man must realise that he probably wouldn't get a game. Also we could look at St Juste that Pool seem to be interested in.

How about van Ginkel that PSV seem to want to sign following the loan from Chelski?

Its going to be as interesting a summer as the last one was, Frank is ready to spend

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 30 Jun 17 12.58pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Parrot:money cannot buy you everything, especially as it is relative. There is no chance whatsoever the likes of Dolberg or Sanchez will come to us. We simply are a smallish club who happens to be lucky with an extortionate amount of (TV)money but that does not mean we can attract potential European top players.

Originally posted by MrCParrot

Did you see Jim Daly's article?
Veltman, 25 CB/RB £8m does seem a bargain and in his last year of his contract

Tete, 21 RB but can play anywhere in defence (like Kelly - except LB obv!) - £3m bid by Galatasaray but Tete didn't want to play in Turkey

Davinson Sanchez, 21 CB had a poor final but good enough to be linked with a move to Barca et al (he's Colombian)

Dolberg, 19 Striker scored 23 times last season - £20 and we would face stiff competition from the usual suspects.

Younes, CAM Winger would slot in well with Wilf and Andros - £20m might sound a lot for this German but could be a bargain

Onana, 21 GK least likely signing but worth a mention even though he's from Cameroon

ANyway, thought I'd share, read the article if you can

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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 30 Jun 17 6.30pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Now that we have a Dutch manager the media are all over trying to link us with any Dutch player they can think of for no other reason than that. It reminds me of that Blackadder when the French revolution is on, London is full of deposed aristocrats, and everyone's talking French, wearing French clothes and ordering frogs' legs in Mrs Miggins' Pie Shoppe.

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Dan89 Flag Se25 30 Jun 17 6.47pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Forget about Zoet, he is no upgrade on Wayne at all and if you want a Dutch goalie offload Stekelenburg from Everton. He has more talent in his left pink then Zoet in both hands!

Would be interesting to see if v Ginkel could cut it. No surprise he failed at Chelski but did not set the world alight when at Stoke either did he. he is class when you see him in the Dutch league, but pace is so much lower there it would be a big question mark.

I realise I sound rather cynical about my fellow countrymen but I really hope Veltman will not come to us. Too errant prone and would not be sure he could cope with the physicality of the game in the PL. As for Riedewald, I just cannot see rumors about Chelski being true other then him being a a potential profit maker after loaning out. He has never hold a regular place in the Ajax defense and though that also counts for Tete I think he is far less suitable for English football then the latter. And unless the boys are at the end of their contracts forget about getting promising players on the cheap overhere. They see the ridiculous fees for very average players too and will up their market price accordingly. Though its seems that Karsdorp went to Roma for 17m euro's. Would have liked to see him with us.

Please keep up the insight in these players. I find it very interesting. What your thoughts on Ziyech?

 


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CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 30 Jun 17 6.59pm Send a Private Message to CPFC/SCCC Add CPFC/SCCC as a friend

I'm all for finding bargains but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that all the players in the erdedvise are better than our current squad. The erdedvise, like liga nos is like a development league. There's talent there but for me would be a nightmare scenario if we bought say 6 players from holland. Holland didn't even qualify for the euros in 2016. Let's not make it our only source of players. If big Sam was in charge would we even consider these players. I highly doubt it.

 


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MrCParrot Flag Taunton 30 Jun 17 8.33pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

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Parrot:money cannot buy you everything, especially as it is relative. There is no chance whatsoever the likes of Dolberg or Sanchez will come to us. We simply are a smallish club who happens to be lucky with an extortionate amount of (TV)money but that does not mean we can attract potential European top players.

Apparently money can buy you everything, just look at what's happening in China. Top players aren't going there for the football are they?
Anyway I do get your point and until we have some semblance of success (a cup win or Europe) and better facilities then we won't attract the very best.
However, we do get to watch Wilf every week and De Boer wanted the job so he must be confident of bringing in some talent.

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MrCParrot Flag Taunton 30 Jun 17 8.41pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
Forget about Zoet, he is no upgrade on Wayne at all and if you want a Dutch goalie offload Stekelenburg from Everton. He has more talent in his left pink then Zoet in both hands!

Would be interesting to see if v Ginkel could cut it. No surprise he failed at Chelski but did not set the world alight when at Stoke either did he. he is class when you see him in the Dutch league, but pace is so much lower there it would be a big question mark.

I realise I sound rather cynical about my fellow countrymen but I really hope Veltman will not come to us. Too errant prone and would not be sure he could cope with the physicality of the game in the PL. As for Riedewald, I just cannot see rumors about Chelski being true other then him being a a potential profit maker after loaning out. He has never hold a regular place in the Ajax defense and though that also counts for Tete I think he is far less suitable for English football then the latter. And unless the boys are at the end of their contracts forget about getting promising players on the cheap overhere. They see the ridiculous fees for very average players too and will up their market price accordingly. Though its seems that Karsdorp went to Roma for 17m euro's. Would have liked to see him with us.

Zoet who? Forgotten already

Van Ginkel does look close to a PSV deal and no rumour of Palace at the mo

Tete then, lets have him!

What do you think of the Van Persie rumours?

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 01 Jul 17 7.23am Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

I would be hesitant at the least. He does have the name to difficult here too but i that respect the deciding factor for me would be that de Boer knows him very well from his time as assistant manager at the Dutch national team. If he would think him suitable then he may able to do a job for us but I would spent the money on someone younger.

Originally posted by MrCParrot

Zoet who? Forgotten already

Van Ginkel does look close to a PSV deal and no rumour of Palace at the mo

Tete then, lets have him!

What do you think of the Van Persie rumours?

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 01 Jul 17 7.38am Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

I can't imagine we'll be signing many Dutch players in this window although I'm sure 2-3 might join. I'll be hugely surprised and disappointed if that's the only players FdB knows about.

I read somewhere that two years ago Tom Carroll was close to a loan move to Ajax to join up with FdB.

He's turned out to be a fantastic £4.5m signing for Swansea, bags of talent..

Point being, I think and hope FdB will bring his type of young players to the club but they won't all be Dutch.

 

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CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 01 Jul 17 7.42am Send a Private Message to CPFC/SCCC Add CPFC/SCCC as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

I can't imagine we'll be signing many Dutch players in this window although I'm sure 2-3 might join. I'll be hugely surprised and disappointed if that's the only players FdB knows about.

I read somewhere that two years ago Tom Carroll was close to a loan move to Ajax to join up with FdB.

He's turned out to be a fantastic £4.5m signing for Swansea, bags of talent..

Point being, I think and hope FdB will bring his type of young players to the club but they won't all be Dutch.

Totally agree. There's no point flooding our team with players of potential from holland. There's plenty of talent outside holland.

 


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When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that
He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right
And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!

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