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chateauferret 31 May 17 10.03am | |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
I'm trying to find the article I read on Tuchel last week. It essentially said he was very Klopp like but, unlike his better know contemporary, had a plan B, C, D, E & F in his coaching repertoire. I think we could do (much) worse but my worry would be him becoming an instant success and a 'big' club coming in with an offer he couldn't refuse. Then they would have to buy out his contract and we would make a Klondike and look much more attractive to someone else. Beats being stuck with Woy.
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Andy_G Wimbledon 31 May 17 10.51am | |
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We are a street fighter side and Sam seemed to embody this completely. I have no problem in changing our style but it would have to be done evolutionary, over a number of seasons, rather than the dopey Pardew approach. Let's for a minute say Tuchel came he would be crazy to move immediately away from what worked well but adding a couple of players like a playmaker and a striker who was more technical would increase possession. (for the record I don't know a lot about him)
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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 31 May 17 11.59am | |
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Originally posted by laddo
As we continue looking for a new manager I'm fascinated by the suggestions. The recent resignation of Tuchel at Dortmund has got some people frothing at the mouth but I genuinely struggle to understand why. Not because he isn't an outstanding coach, but because his philosophy is about a high-pressing style, where possession plays a huge part. This is not 'us'! Then I got to thinking, what is 'us' what is it about the palace DNA? Since supporting palace from 1990 I've never really thought we had one particular style, but now I think we've stumbled across one and I want a coach who is true to that style. That is a reliance on counter attacking football, with tricky wingers providing 'attitude' in attack, solid footballers elsewhere to protect them, a number 10 who can unlock defences from various positions and target man up front who can score goals and bully defences. The issue I find is that many people feel uncomfortable with this style and label it as 'boring'. When Pulis left I comforted myself in the notion that 'at least the football will be better'. I was kidding myself in an attempt to ease the painful blow felt from his departure. Losing 5-4 isn't as fun as winning a scrappy 1-0. Some might disagree but I like the taste of winning over gallant failure. Pardew initially 'got it'. But his insistence on changing our style to a more expansive one cost him his job. Plus, I didn't like it. I didn't like losing 4-2 at home to Liverpool with people saying we were playing football that was 'easy on the eye'. Yeah, it looked good but after a game nothing brings you back to reality than looking at the league table. I want to win. When Allardyce came he gave us our identity back. I for one want this identity to remain. That tika-taka football may look great, but when a team costing the earth uses it and falls foul to genuinely good counter-attacking play, full of pace, power, aggression, trickery and skill, I love it. That's Palace, that's an identity I can stomach. It is also very 'South London'. Forget the pretences, forget the good looking bollox, let's get in their faces and bash them up. This is why our next manager in my opinion has to fit our DNA. I personally no longer feel ashamed that our football can be identified in such a way. Give me the last few months of this season any day of the week compared to the start. So Tuchel may well be a great coach. But he doesn't fit. Dyche on the other hand, may well seem underwhelming but he sounds spot on for who we are. Others thoughts on this will be interesting. Have we got a style? Should we stick by it? If so, are you happy with it? Good post. With Parish appointments it been more about survival at all costs. With Sam leaving we mould our identity for the next coach. Whilst big Sam and pulis have been successful. They sort had a short period of time in charge of Palace,which I call 'survival mode'. Whilst playing defensive with a structure and defensive mindset in Jan onwards is great until safety assured. Do we really want that kind of style from August. Also is a myth that he can only survive in this division with these tactics. Their are many sides in this division that play a decent brand of football like Southampton, stoke and b'mouth. I'm sure if the right manager came in they would adapt to the players at the club rather than our DNA. Something that Pardew failed to do. He thought he bring in a goalkeeper that plays from the back and thought the likes of Delaney would turn into rio Ferdinand.
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