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 Mr Palaceman  13 Apr 17 8.04am |
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Originally posted by gambler
Our manager has the potential to manage England one day........ If he did, I think he would win every game...But how would we ever know..
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| Dan89 Se25 13 Apr 17 8.32am |
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Originally posted by Croydonlad
Im thinking we look good to stay up When we think we on to a good thing. We usually shoot ourselves in the foot. Tony pulis 1st season. We had momentum and he walked out over transfer policy. Alan Pardew 1st season everything was going rosey until he thought he could turn us into Barca style with Delaney in the back 4. Let's enjoy the current success but let's not get carried away. A question is big Sam look like a great manager because of Alan Pardew failings?
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BarEagle  Monmouth 13 Apr 17 8.35am |
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Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle
Big mistake for us to sell Wilf - even for 35m. The reason is we don't do possession. We defend and we attack. Zaha is so good that we can have extra defenders and STILL be a scoring threat because Zaha regularly beats 2,3,4+ defenders and now either scores or assists. No one is going to be better than Zaha at beating defenders - tell me who if you know of anyone - and then tell me how much money they'll cost. Also, Zaha will now be getting attention from the television people: he has an entertainment factor, and we need that to attract future fans as well. Also, Zaha is now less of a lone ranger, now combining very well with Townsend and Benteke: why upset that? Come on! This team has 'clicked', Zaha is emerging into the superstar we all know he destined to become, is still young, and will probably end up at Barcelona or RM. Why sell him for 35m and watch Spurs sell him for double that in 3 years time? KEEP HIM. ^^
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| Dan89 Se25 13 Apr 17 8.43am |
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Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle
Big mistake for us to sell Wilf - even for 35m. The reason is we don't do possession. We defend and we attack. Zaha is so good that we can have extra defenders and STILL be a scoring threat because Zaha regularly beats 2,3,4+ defenders and now either scores or assists. No one is going to be better than Zaha at beating defenders - tell me who if you know of anyone - and then tell me how much money they'll cost. Also, Zaha will now be getting attention from the television people: he has an entertainment factor, and we need that to attract future fans as well. Also, Zaha is now less of a lone ranger, now combining very well with Townsend and Benteke: why upset that? Come on! This team has 'clicked', Zaha is emerging into the superstar we all know he destined to become, is still young, and will probably end up at Barcelona or RM. Why sell him for 35m and watch Spurs sell him for double that in 3 years time? KEEP HIM. It doesn't work like that. When was the last player that joined a European giant the likes of Barca,juve,r Madrid or Bayern Munich from a club the size of Palace. It's great in theory but zaha will want to test himself in the champions league with a spurs or Man City. If he then shines in the champions league then he would join a Barca or a Madrid. Zaha was tempted to leave in the august window. I would love him to stay and humiliate Brighton one last time.
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| silvertop Portishead 13 Apr 17 10.32am |
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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman
I don't think that Spurts would pay 50mil either and I wouldn't sell for less than that but it all depends on what Wilf wants. If a club like Chelski or the Arse come in for him at 35mil, that could be enough for Wilf to request a transfer. If he doesn't, that's all good to me but when SP comes out and says he's going nowhere, although I like the commitment to keep our best players, I believe he is going to want to go. Everton can't keep Lukaku, we face the same problem with Wilf and to some extent attracting Sakho to the club.
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 13 Apr 17 10.53am |
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Originally posted by BelfastEagle
Reading this thread I'm getting a feeling of Groundhog Day ! Can somebody please start talking about European football as well ? Yep, Allardyce will also be preening around like a peacock.
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 13 Apr 17 10.55am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
It doesn't work like that. When was the last player that joined a European giant the likes of Barca,juve,r Madrid or Bayern Munich from a club the size of Palace. It's great in theory but zaha will want to test himself in the champions league with a spurs or Man City. If he then shines in the champions league then he would join a Barca or a Madrid. Zaha was tempted to leave in the august window. I would love him to stay and humiliate Brighton one last time. Spot on, his trajectory would more like follow Gareth Bale. Also in terms of keeping him I think it will follow Yannick's departure last season. The club will try everything to keep him but ultimately it will be the players decision. Edited by Booted Eagle (13 Apr 2017 10.59am)
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 13 Apr 17 10.59am |
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Originally posted by BelfastEagle
Reading this thread I'm getting a feeling of Groundhog Day ! Can somebody please start talking about European football as well ?
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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| The Dolphin 13 Apr 17 11.00am |
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We will likely lose Wilf and Sakho and maybe Cabaye.
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KAOS  In a tree 13 Apr 17 12.05pm |
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I think we should be worrying about our Manager leaving before any of our star players. If Sam keeps us up, his domestic stock will rise even further and a bigger Prem club might try and poach him as a result! Keep Sam and we have a better chance of convincing certain players that there is a real opportunity to further their career in SE25 … All the above is academic if we get relegated though! Ha!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Apr 17 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by KAOS
I think we should be worrying about our Manager leaving before any of our star players. If Sam keeps us up, his domestic stock will rise even further and a bigger Prem club might try and poach him as a result! Keep Sam and we have a better chance of convincing certain players that there is a real opportunity to further their career in SE25 … All the above is academic if we get relegated though! Ha! Agree and kind of as you say, they go hand in hand. Players might stay if deals are right and Sam stays if his and their deals are right and most are kept.
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| sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 13 Apr 17 1.42pm |
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Interesting reading on Sakho and Wilf and Parish's views. Let's not forget that Wilf recently signed a new contract so it's going to cost any team a pretty fortune to get him out of it.
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