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jamiemartin721  Reading 06 Apr 17 3.27pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I think while the huge disparity between term time and non-term time holidays exists then there will always be a debate. Yes the evidence seems to suggest that there can be an impact on long term performance. But as you acknowledge parents can be the biggest influence on the education of a child. Quality time together as a family can be a major positive in development - and if costs are prohibitive then this can be curtailed. I think that always has to be the case, where the parents action may not be in the ultimate best interests of the child. Parents aren't necessarily always acting in the best interests of a child but maybe for more selfish motives. I don't think its something we should be comfortable with, and by default cases like this, which then place the issue into the realm of the Judicary, are necessary to establish how fair a government decision may be (given the motives of politicians and government may not be in the best interests of either children or parents). But I think with a triumvate of parent, state and judiciary, you ultimately have a fair in long winded method of establishing a 'reasonable' intervention.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 06 Apr 17 3.27pm |
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Originally posted by YT
I have children and I completely agree with you. We wouldn't even consider taking our children out of school for a holiday, and we laugh at idiot parents of this person's ilk who somehow equate 2 weeks in Disney World to an essential educational experience. If a holiday out of term time is too expensive then go on a cheaper one. Surprisingly there is no basic human right to go on holiday, in any case. Yes I mean how can a potentially once in a lifetime mind expanding experience equate to two weeks staring at the same white board that you have been staring at for years. When I look back on my school life I always fondly remember the algebraic equations and the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Oddly I hope my kids remember our tour of America and a fortnight snorkeling and making sand castles in the Maldives.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Apr 17 3.28pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award. And if you f**ked them at the BBC, you get an OBE.
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| Midlands Eagle 06 Apr 17 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
as you acknowledge parents can be the biggest influence on the education of a child. Quality time together as a family can be a major positive in development - and if costs are prohibitive then this can be curtailed. Quality time together as a family can be achieved without the need to go abroad on holiday
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Apr 17 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yes I mean how can a potentially once in a lifetime mind expanding experience equate to two weeks staring at the same white board that you have been staring at for years. When I look back on my school life I always fondly remember the algebraic equations and the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Oddly I hope my kids remember our tour of America and a fortnight snorkeling and making sand castles in the Maldives. Probably true, unless of course they want to go into higher education, at which point remembering how to solve algebraic equations is probably going to be of more value. And lets face it kids being kids, are going to form happy memories of the less impressive, less expensive holiday you took outside of term time. When I look back on my school life I remember largely the cruel indifference, intimidation, violence and bullying by teachers and along with how I got through that by doing some of the same to weaker kids. The sexual bullying particularly sticks with me.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 06 Apr 17 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Very funny. But I think you are misunderstanding criminal law. No-one has ever been arrested for taking their daughter to Disneyland in term time, but they may well have faced a fixed penalty charge. I'm not misunderstanding anything, thanks. It's called 'comic effect'.
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| paperhat croydon 06 Apr 17 3.37pm |
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I'm worried that a kid missing a week of school is looked upon like they are going to fail in life. if they are that needy, then boarding school would seem to be the only answer, that or extra tuition. That brings me onto another point. Easter holidays vary from school to school from 2-3 weeks, not including the statutory 'inset' day that usually accompanies the monday of any return to school. What the hell needs to be done on that extra day that can't be done during the previous break? (I don't have kids, nor do i intend to, so can I have my taxes back too?)
Edited by paperhat (06 Apr 2017 3.37pm)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 06 Apr 17 3.38pm |
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so when packing their bags for the family holiday to Florida, what items were included : ? * Reading books
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Apr 17 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award. Schools are told to be vigilant on fgm at the moment and have been for some time.
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| paperhat croydon 06 Apr 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
When I look back on my school life I remember largely the cruel indifference, intimidation, violence and bullying by teachers and along with how I got through that by doing some of the same to weaker kids. The sexual bullying particularly sticks with me. dealing it out, or receiving it?
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 06 Apr 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Schools are told to be vigilant on fgm at the moment and have been for some time. What, like they don't think there's enough of it?
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| YT Oxford 06 Apr 17 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I'm not misunderstanding anything, thanks. It's called 'comic effect'. You don't need to thank me; you are welcome. And I recognised the humour in your comment; that's why I began my post with "very funny". Or did you think that was comic irony too?
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