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 Bangell  Oxford 23 Feb 17 11.53am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Seven managers in seven years = Parish £50million plus wasted on hasbeens, never going to be's and the overly expensive = Parish Selling over half the club to Americans = Parish No ground redevelopment and no proper upgrading of facilities in training and at the Academy = Parish £550million plus turnover going through the club and with relegation not much at all to show for it = Parish. I blame Pardew. Freedman leaves, poached by what he thought was a bigger club; Holloway leaves/is sacked because he's out of his depth; Pulis sneaks out with his bonus and later gets sued; Warnock sacked for poor performances and a better option was available; Pardew sacked for an abysmal run of form and the complete dissolution of any organisation in the team. The only thing you can really blame Parish for is not sacking Pardew sooner. As for allowing American investment - I really don't see what effect that's had on anything. It's unclear to me how the club is reaping the benefits of the investment, but equally I don't see how the team's performances could be affected. I do agree that our transfer activity isn't the best, and we need to invest in better scouting and transfer infrastructure. But why are we in relegation trouble? The run of form from the beginning of 2016 reveals a long-term problem and it's absolutely clear that Alan Pardew failed to maintain the fitness and organisation of the team. He's a good motivator; but the defence was a shambles and getting worse under his tenure, and the constant slip-ups late in games due to lack of fitness were embarrassing.
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| Username Horsham 23 Feb 17 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Seven managers in seven years = Parish Burley was s***e. I'm not sure how he is particularly to blame with most of these to be honest? He's generally backed his managers and if anything, was incredibly lenient with Pardew and Freedman. Plenty wanted Dougie gone after the first three games of the promotion year? I can't honestly see how anyone can claim that Burley, Holloway, Warnock or Pardew deserved to keep a job, and in any case the results achieved at the end of each of those seasons fully justified the decisions? Quote
£50million plus wasted on hasbeens, never going to be's and the overly expensive = Parish He's backed his managers. If he hadn't, then you'd be moaning that he wasn't spending money. Quote
Selling over half the club to Americans = Parish Other than you not liking the Americans, there isn't really any actual evidence of anything to suggest that any of this is anything to do with them is there? Quote
No ground redevelopment and no proper upgrading of facilities in training and at the Academy = Parish Ground wasn't going to be fixed overnight, but for what it's worth he's carried out some pretty essential maintenance work including upgrading bars, restaurants, replacing wooden seats, new screen, new TV studio/gantry/lighting (all PL requirements I believe?), new pitch (x2), undersoil heating and a ticket scanning system that, despite issues for some on Day 1, has worked perfectly for me every week since? Quote
Training ground and Academy is pretty difficult to judge again, assuming that none of us get to look around inside much? There's been plenty of talk about first Pulis and Pardew having input in upgrading it, but short of knocking it down I don't know what's been added/changed. I'm sure there was something about cryo that was mentioned again recently since Allardyce came in? Quote
£550million plus turnover going through the club and with relegation not much at all to show for it = Parish. Under his watch we've been promoted (against all odds) had arguably our best sustained spell of top flight football and gone to only our second ever major cup final.
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| Johnny Byrne Pinner 23 Feb 17 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by Bangell
Freedman leaves, poached by what he thought was a bigger club; Holloway leaves/is sacked because he's out of his depth; Pulis sneaks out with his bonus and later gets sued; Warnock sacked for poor performances and a better option was available; Pardew sacked for an abysmal run of form and the complete dissolution of any organisation in the team. The only thing you can really blame Parish for is not sacking Pardew sooner. As for allowing American investment - I really don't see what effect that's had on anything. It's unclear to me how the club is reaping the benefits of the investment, but equally I don't see how the team's performances could be affected. I do agree that our transfer activity isn't the best, and we need to invest in better scouting and transfer infrastructure. But why are we in relegation trouble? The run of form from the beginning of 2016 reveals a long-term problem and it's absolutely clear that Alan Pardew failed to maintain the fitness and organisation of the team. He's a good motivator; but the defence was a shambles and getting worse under his tenure, and the constant slip-ups late in games due to lack of fitness were embarrassing. Good observation. Players as a result mentally shot. New players will help readjust this, by winning.
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Kermit8  Hevon 23 Feb 17 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
You don't need to sign off your posts. I know you are
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 17 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You don't need to sign off your posts. I know you are
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| Hoof Hearted 23 Feb 17 12.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You don't need to sign off your posts. I know you are THat's 2 comical posts in one thread Kermy! Respect!
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| Kermit8 Hevon 23 Feb 17 1.01pm |
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Touche
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| lefty27 ipswich 23 Feb 17 1.10pm |
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He engages with the fans and has the clubs best interests at heart. Don't think it's overly fair to blame parish.
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| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Feb 17 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Seven managers in seven years = Parish £50million plus wasted on hasbeens, never going to be's and the overly expensive = Parish Selling over half the club to Americans = Parish No ground redevelopment and no proper upgrading of facilities in training and at the Academy = Parish £550million plus turnover going through the club and with relegation not much at all to show for it = Parish. I blame Pardew. Kermit a tad harsh. Who are the £50 million hasbeens. ?
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| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Feb 17 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
If we avoid relegation we won't be having this discussion. Not by me.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 23 Feb 17 2.13pm |
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| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Feb 17 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Not really £50 millions worth there.
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