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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 15 Jan 17 2.37pm
i dont think its fair to dig him out for playing international football...we should be proud and im looking forward to watching the game 4pm tomorrow. it is sad tho that i can see him wanting out now big sams here as manager...his celebration against swansea spoke 1000 words about what he thinks of the situation. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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i dont think its fair to dig him out for playing international football...we should be proud and im looking forward to watching the game 4pm tomorrow.

it is sad tho that i can see him wanting out now big sams here as manager...his celebration against swansea spoke 1000 words about what he thinks of the situation.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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coulsdoneagle London 15 Jan 17 2.40pm
He was let down by England and once he got a chance to play in a huge international tournament which his team has a good chance of winning it's a no brainier. Footballers don't have long careers, I don't blame him for wanting some silverware. I'm not English but I grew up here and lived over here most of my life, I know how it's easy to be proud of two nations and I imagine Wilf is a proud Ivorian as much as an Englishman and I don't blame him.
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London 15 Jan 17 2.40pm

He was let down by England and once he got a chance to play in a huge international tournament which his team has a good chance of winning it's a no brainier. Footballers don't have long careers, I don't blame him for wanting some silverware. I'm not English but I grew up here and lived over here most of my life, I know how it's easy to be proud of two nations and I imagine Wilf is a proud Ivorian as much as an Englishman and I don't blame him.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Jan 17 3.47pm
Originally posted by bubble wrap I feel let down by him, Whilst he is out on a holiday playing in a tin pot tournament making up dance routines the club that pay his wages are struggling and need his services. He was happy not to play in the AFCON tournament before Pardew was sacked but changed his mind. Our chairman and new manager should have insisted on him staying. by the time he gets back we could be adrift. The loyalty should be to your club at times like this. I fully agree, it was obvious he was going to make it into the England set up somewhere down the line if Townsend can, instead who courted the Ivory coast and then he'd backed himself into a corner as when they called him up he couldn't refuse. He shouldn't even have entertained the idea, we pay his wages and his loyalty first and foremost should be to his club. I feel pretty let down by him and the club could have done with out this BS at the moment FFS! Rant over.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Jan 17 3.47pm

Originally posted by bubble wrap

I feel let down by him, Whilst he is out on a holiday playing in a tin pot tournament making up dance routines the club that pay his wages are struggling and need his services. He was happy not to play in the AFCON tournament before Pardew was sacked but changed his mind. Our chairman and new manager should have insisted on him staying. by the time he gets back we could be adrift. The loyalty should be to your club at times like this.

I fully agree, it was obvious he was going to make it into the England set up somewhere down the line if Townsend can, instead who courted the Ivory coast and then he'd backed himself into a corner as when they called him up he couldn't refuse. He shouldn't even have entertained the idea, we pay his wages and his loyalty first and foremost should be to his club. I feel pretty let down by him and the club could have done with out this BS at the moment FFS!

Rant over.

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Mo Sizlak 15 Jan 17 3.53pm
Originally posted by bubble wrap I feel let down by him, Whilst he is out on a holiday playing in a tin pot tournament making up dance routines the club that pay his wages are struggling and need his services. He was happy not to play in the AFCON tournament before Pardew was sacked but changed his mind. Our chairman and new manager should have insisted on him staying. by the time he gets back we could be adrift. The loyalty should be to your club at times like this. I agree. I think it was badly timed. He should've realised he was from The Ivory Coast in March. It's doing us no favours at all and it has convinced me that he definitely won't be a Palace player next season. Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....
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Mo Sizlak

15 Jan 17 3.53pm

Originally posted by bubble wrap

I agree. I think it was badly timed.
He should've realised he was from The Ivory Coast in March.
It's doing us no favours at all and it has convinced me that he definitely won't be a Palace player next season.

Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....

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Salford eagle 15 Jan 17 3.58pm
Zaha chose Ivory Coast as soon as Southgate was confirmed. When he was playing for the U21 he was meant to report for duty on the Friday, he was playing for Palace that night and was 2hrs late. Which I would have thought was justifiable considering he had just played. Southgate didn't just drop him from the team but the squad to demonstrate his authority. Zaha knew he wasn't going to get a fair crack of the whip with Southgate. If you want to blame anyone blame Southgate. California sunlight - sweet Calcutta rain - Honolulu starbright - the song remains the same
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Salford eagle

15 Jan 17 3.58pm

Zaha chose Ivory Coast as soon as Southgate was confirmed.

When he was playing for the U21 he was meant to report for duty on the Friday, he was playing for Palace that night and was 2hrs late. Which I would have thought was justifiable considering he had just played. Southgate didn't just drop him from the team but the squad to demonstrate his authority.

Zaha knew he wasn't going to get a fair crack of the whip with Southgate. If you want to blame anyone blame Southgate.

California sunlight - sweet Calcutta rain - Honolulu starbright - the song remains the same

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OhthisbloodyPC 15 Jan 17 4.02pm
I don't blame him for choosing to play for his country. The people who run the England team are clueless buffoons. An invitation from them is a poison chalice. Even if they did pick Wilf, they'd play him out of position, then he'd get blamed by all the usual t***s who think the England team should be chosen on merchandising sales performance. for example.... Andy Johnson got played on the right wing when he played for England. When he actually won a penalty, in a game against the US, 'pundit' and former England player Graeme Le Saux actually slagged him off, saying "That's Andy Johnson all over." John Motson had to politely prompt him to say something positive! So I say good luck to Wilf. He's playing for his country and will make his family proud. I think he's magnificent If we go down, the club falls apart, the ground is sold, morale in Croydon plummets and Selhust becomes a barren wasteland, then so be it
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OhthisbloodyPC

15 Jan 17 4.02pm

I don't blame him for choosing to play for his country.

The people who run the England team are clueless buffoons.

An invitation from them is a poison chalice. Even if they did pick Wilf, they'd play him out of position, then he'd get blamed by all the usual t***s who think the England team should be chosen on merchandising sales performance.

for example....
Andy Johnson got played on the right wing when he played for England. When he actually won a penalty, in a game against the US, 'pundit' and former England player Graeme Le Saux actually slagged him off, saying "That's Andy Johnson all over." John Motson had to politely prompt him to say something positive!

So I say good luck to Wilf. He's playing for his country and will make his family proud.

I think he's magnificent

If we go down, the club falls apart, the ground is sold, morale in Croydon plummets and Selhust becomes a barren wasteland, then so be it

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Asian Eagle Cebu City 15 Jan 17 4.24pm
Totally agree Dave Originally posted by bexleydave Once he was called up he couldn't refuse to go and the club couldn't refuse to release him. If he hadn't gone, we couldn't have played him. The fault lies with the failure to sign adequate cover. Isn't Townsend supposed to be the right-side wizard?
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Cebu City 15 Jan 17 4.24pm

Totally agree Dave

Originally posted by bexleydave

Once he was called up he couldn't refuse to go and the club couldn't refuse to release him. If he hadn't gone, we couldn't have played him. The fault lies with the failure to sign adequate cover. Isn't Townsend supposed to be the right-side wizard?

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PA Bedfordshire 15 Jan 17 4.30pm
Originally posted by Winch Eagle I was just going to write something similar when this post popped up. I have to say I feel a bit let down by him too. Reading the other contributions I agree he has the right to okay for the country if his birth (even if after he has played countless u21 games and 2 full friendlies) but the timing was a little bit "if I am not going to okay for England now then I won't at all" ? If he really wanted to play for Ivory Coast he would have done by now. He was not so keen to play in al, the pony qualifiers? The tournament is not tin pot but the format is ridiculous. I am guessing every 2 years is a revenue building thing. Okay
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Bedfordshire 15 Jan 17 4.30pm

Originally posted by Winch Eagle

I was just going to write something similar when this post popped up.
I have to say I feel a bit let down by him too.
Reading the other contributions I agree he has the right to okay for the country if his birth (even if after he has played countless u21 games and 2 full friendlies) but the timing was a little bit "if I am not going to okay for England now then I won't at all" ?
If he really wanted to play for Ivory Coast he would have done by now.
He was not so keen to play in al, the pony qualifiers?
The tournament is not tin pot but the format is ridiculous.
I am guessing every 2 years is a revenue building thing.

Okay

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Winch Eagle Fleet, Hampshire 15 Jan 17 5.21pm
Originally posted by PA Okay Wow PA. What a deep thinker you are! Great contribution to the debate my friend! Winch Eagle
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Fleet, Hampshire 15 Jan 17 5.21pm

Originally posted by PA

Okay

Wow PA.
What a deep thinker you are!

Great contribution to the debate my friend!

Winch Eagle

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Blue'n'red Field of Chels (Orpington) 15 Jan 17 5.37pm
Haven't the African countries initiated a clause where if a player refuses to play in afcon they or their club get fined? I read somewhere 7 Cameroonian refused to travel They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?
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Field of Chels (Orpington) 15 Jan 17 5.37pm

Haven't the African countries initiated a clause where if a player refuses to play in afcon they or their club get fined? I read somewhere 7 Cameroonian refused to travel

They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?

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phillanth London 15 Jan 17 5.48pm
Originally posted by cpj I agree - he could have stayed and fought for a place in the England team. Instead he threw a wobbly and has badly let us down at a time when we needed him. Rubbish! Southgate has made it very clear that Wilf will never make an England squad, let alone the first 11, preferring to rely on Townsend and the geniuses that managed to lose to Iceland. We should Wilf miss out on an international career? He has been fantastic for us this season, scoring great goals, setting up goals for others and tracking back. Sadly he will be off when we get relegated, I don't blame him.
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phillanth

London 15 Jan 17 5.48pm

Originally posted by cpj

I agree - he could have stayed and fought for a place in the England team. Instead he threw a wobbly and has badly let us down at a time when we needed him.

Rubbish! Southgate has made it very clear that Wilf will never make an England squad, let alone the first 11, preferring to rely on Townsend and the geniuses that managed to lose to Iceland. We should Wilf miss out on an international career? He has been fantastic for us this season, scoring great goals, setting up goals for others and tracking back. Sadly he will be off when we get relegated, I don't blame him.

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MPE Maidstone 15 Jan 17 5.48pm
At least this means he will not be going in this transfer window, if he has a good tournament, he hopefully will be back raring to go and full of confidence. Plus he is away from all the doom and gloom. Just when I thought that I was out...........they pull me back in
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Maidstone 15 Jan 17 5.48pm

At least this means he will not be going in this transfer window, if he has a good tournament, he hopefully will be back raring to go and full of confidence. Plus he is away from all the doom and gloom.

Just when I thought that I was out...........they pull me back in

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