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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Dec 16 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
For accuracy... it was a Sunday afternoon FA Cup game live on the telly. Not only did Gallagher not give us the goal and/or penalty for handball.... he gave a free kick to Leeds that should have been ours and allowed it to be taken before we could organise our defence and allowed Harry Kewell to score! I've also witnessed Gallagher apply bias to WBA against us by sending off Sorondo from miles away when he got the ball! See the footage below... Superb match though (despite Gallagher) I was there! Firstly one cannot accuse Gallagher of being biased towards WBA, deliberately making an incorrect decision in their favour. Secondly one can still win the ball but commit a foul eg one makes contact with the player first to foul him before making contact with the ball. In the link, Sorondo challenges from the side but the ball appears to go forward so perhaps this influenced Gallagher's decision making.
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| Hoof Hearted 31 Dec 16 12.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Firstly one cannot accuse Gallagher of being biased towards WBA, deliberately making an incorrect decision in their favour. Secondly one can still win the ball but commit a foul eg one makes contact with the player first to foul him before making contact with the ball. In the link, Sorondo challenges from the side but the ball appears to go forward so perhaps this influenced Gallagher's decision making. I've just won £10 from my wife correctly forecasting your response pretty much word for word. Result!
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| Midlands Eagle 31 Dec 16 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I've also witnessed Gallagher apply bias to WBA against us by sending off Sorondo from miles away when he got the ball! See the footage below... Superb match though (despite Gallagher) I was there! Me too
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| Hoof Hearted 31 Dec 16 1.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Me too I nearly got into a fight.... I mimicked a crying face as we equalised in the last second and this Baggie bloke took offence and tried to climb over the fence to get at me. My mate is a Baggie and we drove back to Bristol after in stony silence as he was gutted we had scored so late too.
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| lefty27 ipswich 31 Dec 16 1.44pm |
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I have an idea. Why don't the major European leagues pool refs. They all ref champs league and uefa cup so travel no issue. It would iradicate any bias in these leagues and standardise league football in europe.This would benifit us internationaly and in European competition when we see fouls comitted that wouldnt be given in the pl.
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| Old Chap Orpington 31 Dec 16 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Where is the firm evidence he was "Cheating" ? Why can you not entertain the notion that he could not possibly see that the ball had crossed the line ? That it was a genuine mistake ? Edited by Willo (31 Dec 2016 10.10am) A genuine mistake? Maybe - but I recall he said the whole ball hadn't crossed the line which is why he didn't give the goal. Well judge for yourself - photo clearly shows the ball at least a yard over the line. And if he didn't see it clearly surely he'd watch carefully and must have seen the Leeds player handle the ball? So it should either have been a goal, or a penalty and red card
Trivial fact - Palace used to win 5-1 at least once a season, maybe next season? |
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Originally posted by Willo
Where is the firm evidence he was "Cheating" ? Why can you not entertain the notion that he could not possibly see that the ball had crossed the line ? That it was a genuine mistake ? Edited by Willo (31 Dec 2016 10.10am) But how could avoid seeing the Leeds-arm that stopped the ball on second attempt? That was even worse from ref in the Cup game (with Venables in Leeds dugout)...
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jan 17 9.15am |
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Originally posted by Old Chap
A genuine mistake? Maybe - but I recall he said the whole ball hadn't crossed the line which is why he didn't give the goal. Well judge for yourself - photo clearly shows the ball at least a yard over the line. And if he didn't see it clearly surely he'd watch carefully and must have seen the Leeds player handle the ball? So it should either have been a goal, or a penalty and red card Yes photo shows it crossed the line and it can be seen from this angle but the referee had a different angle entirely and had to make a split-second decision in real time.Besides they often have to rely on their assistants for such calls but even they can be un-sighted with players in their line of vision. Regards handling the ball, the above applies and just because a referee hasn't seen an offence from his angle doesn't mean that he is biased and purposely chooses NOT to give the foul.We are all terrific judges when we look at umpteen TV replays from different angles. Edited by Willo (01 Jan 2017 9.16am)
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| Shortbutts Birmingham 01 Jan 17 9.17am |
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A few years back I was at a corporate event where Graham Poll was the after dinner speaker. I also sat next to him over dinner. His main frustration (apart from his infamous treble booking incident which cost him refereeing the 2006 World Cup Final) was with the Assistant Referees (Linesmen). They are meant to make decisions, but apart from offsides he said they are reluctant to do so; even who should get a throw in. I am in support of Willo - I do not believe that refs at the top level cheat or show deliberate bias. Even the best referees cannot see everything with the pace of the game. In hindsight and on TV it is easy to be right all the time. Poll admitted he had made mistakes - he is a big fan of video referrals to assist referees. He confirmed that he does have a father, but was not immune to self-pleasuring and therefore some of the fan's chants were not inaccurate.
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BarEagle  Monmouth 01 Jan 17 10.23am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Is it though? What about this extract from Fergie's autobiography!
Hilarious! I thought it was genuine until the of the paragraph... Howard Webb spouts some crap as a commentator though. He was also in love with Manure
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| gerry theagle newbury 01 Jan 17 10.55am |
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Happy New Year Willo,I see the blinkers are firmly in place already for 2017.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jan 17 11.08am |
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Originally posted by gerry theagle
Happy New Year Willo,I see the blinkers are firmly in place already for 2017. Gerry A very Happy New Year to you too Sir. Andre Marriner is the man with the whistle. Edited by Willo (01 Jan 2017 11.12am)
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