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DocSavage1 Flag Brackley 29 Dec 16 8.12am Send a Private Message to DocSavage1 Add DocSavage1 as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

...would it be if we get relegated?

I'm interested to know what you other fans think. If SA stays until the end of season, he will have had half the season (roughly), and a window to add players. So who would get the blame.

The choices are;

1. Sam Allardyce

2. Alan Pardew

3. The players

4. CPFC2010

5. the fair weathers who leave with 10 minutes to go

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Dec 16 8.30am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DocSavage1

5. the fair weathers who leave with 10 minutes to go

What does that have to do with our performances on the field?

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 29 Dec 16 8.32am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by DocSavage1

5. the fair weathers who leave with 10 minutes to go


Surely the 'fair weathers' are the 10,000 who only turn up when we're in the PL or at Wembley. Those who pay their money to attend games are by definition supporters and can come and go as they please.

 


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pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 29 Dec 16 9.09am Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by davehuggins

For me it is down to who ever agreed to "change our style of play". Getting ideas above our station also not having a tactically competent manager to carry them out. For me AP was nothing more than an average Premiership manager, sorry but this is just as I see it.

Agree with that 100%.

 

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Den1923 Flag 29 Dec 16 9.15am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Blame whoever you like, but the fact of the matter is Big Sam is in charge now. With home games vs Swansea, Middlesbro, Burnley, Hull, Sunderland, Leicester, Watford and Everton comin' up, there should be at least enough winnable games to stay clear of any relegation battle.

We only have to win at least nine to be sure of staying up, easy for Sam eh!, not with the current squad thats available and especially, if Zaha goes to Africa nations, this is going to be very tough and close run thing right down to the wire!

 

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Aray Flag South London 29 Dec 16 10.18am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

...would it be if we get relegated?

I'm interested to know what you other fans think. If SA stays until the end of season, he will have had half the season (roughly), and a window to add players. So who would get the blame.

The choices are;

1. Sam Allardyce

2. Alan Pardew

3. The players

4. CPFC2010

This site used to be quite good a while ago. A thread on who to blame for a calamitous event which cannot happen for another 4/5 months minimum for which there are many factors yet to play out? Isn't the silly season meant to be August?

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Dec 16 10.29am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by davehuggins

For me it is down to who ever agreed to "change our style of play". Getting ideas above our station also not having a tactically competent manager to carry them out. For me AP was nothing more than an average Premiership manager, sorry but this is just as I see it.

A good point. And I think the buck stops with the manager for this one.

It's all very well changing the style of play, but you need the right personnel to do it.

We didn't have the right group of players. It seems Pardew overlooked the fact that the opposition will also have the ball.

 


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Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 29 Dec 16 10.52am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

I am totally to blame given my high weighting of Palace players in my fantasy football team. The last of them being Benteke, who I will take out this week which will mean he will now score shed loads. Just for good measure I have loaded up on Arsenal players so nothing really can go wrong on Sunday. Onwards and upwards.

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 29 Dec 16 11.20am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

A good point. And I think the buck stops with the manager for this one.

It's all very well changing the style of play, but you need the right personnel to do it.

We didn't have the right group of players. It seems Pardew overlooked the fact that the opposition will also have the ball.

Yes has to be AP.
Especially as it was obvious we did not have enough quality players to do whatever his new style was meant to be , and also it was the wrong time , we did not finish last season playing well so we did not even have a strong basis to think we were good enough to try something else.
If he had just gone back to basics and and played solid we would probably be mid table , in a good position to sign new players and strengthen even more ready for the next season when a change of style could be possible.
His problem was his own ego thinking he could do it just by declaring it and not accepting he failed.

 

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rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 29 Dec 16 11.58am Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

Sam will blame Pards;
Pards will blame 2010
2010 will blame the players
The players will blame Sam, Pards & 2010.

We will blame Pards I think. We've probably dropped 10 points that we could should have got with better team selection and tactics.

Major injury problems now and other clubs sorting themselves out mean we have a really tough and difficult second half to the year. Very few winnable games at the backend of the season when Sam will have new players bedded in and injury returns and therefore the team playing better.

 

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Podyonkers Flag Atlanta, Georgia 29 Dec 16 5.22pm Send a Private Message to Podyonkers Add Podyonkers as a friend

Originally posted by davehuggins

For me it is down to who ever agreed to "change our style of play". Getting ideas above our station also not having a tactically competent manager to carry them out. For me AP was nothing more than an average Premiership manager, sorry but this is just as I see it.

I'd halfway agree with this but I don't think we had ideas "above our station." To me, the concept of playing a little more expansively was sound. It meant we would not always be on the back foot, not relying on 30% possession and breakaway goals, etc. We purchased players we believed could help us build a team that possessed the ball and built from the back.

I think the problem was twofold: (1) we tried to adapt our style of play too quickly. It wasn't a gradual build, it was a huge gamble. I think these ideas needed more time to develop. (2) Pardew did not seem, in the end, to be capable of implementing these ideas.

 


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